Fairweather Posted November 30, 2001 Share Posted November 30, 2001 Just curious. I've been tossing around "alternative access" to Mt. Rainier in the event that they someday try to lock out, or severely limit climbing access. I've hiked into the park from the Lake Christine trailhead and think this would be a good way--over Gobblers Knob, down to Lk George-- to access Tahoma Glacier or any of the other west side routes. I've also looked at some of the Champion Intl. land as a possible access to the Northwest side. On the east, I've accessed Grand Park from FS road 73, but this has little climbing access value. Does anyone out there have any other "clandestine access" ideas re: MRNP? Maybe I'm being paranoid, but just look at what is going on down at Mount Hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted November 30, 2001 Share Posted November 30, 2001 What is going on down at Mt Hood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_e Posted November 30, 2001 Share Posted November 30, 2001 I was on Hood two weeks ago, no one stopped me from climbing and I had the place pretty much to myself. Fun mountain to climb this time of year, especially on a nice cold day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted November 30, 2001 Share Posted November 30, 2001 holy crap, this thread has been here a whole day and Dru or Cavey haven't stopped by to take advantage of the huge spray potential! come on! "Backdoor" access? Knob Gobblers? dereliction of duty, Caveman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 30, 2001 Share Posted November 30, 2001 I thought it was a serious thread I think "closet door" might be more semantically accurate than "back door" though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottP Posted November 30, 2001 Share Posted November 30, 2001 A big difference between Hood (whatever is going on their) and Rainier is that Hood isn't a Natl Park. The history of climbing on Rainier predates the park. That combined with the huge numbers of people attempting the summit, many using the services of an entrenched guide service, will probably keep the park service from locking out, or severely limiting climbing access. Now, good alternate routes into the Enchantments is what I would like to hear about. [ 11-30-2001: Message edited by: ScottP ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted December 2, 2001 Author Share Posted December 2, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Maurice: What is going on down at Mt Hood? If the manager of Mt Hood Ntl Forest and "Wilderness Watch" have their way, Mt Hood's South Climb will be on a permit basis with climbers limited to 25 individuals per day. This decision is to be based not on environmental problems, but rather the "solitude" provisions in The Wilderness Act which some extremists feel are being violated on the south side of Hood. This will force many lesser experienced climbers on to harder routes where they will no doubt run into trouble. Climbing on Mount Hood is also well established. Perhaps over 100,000 have climbed it since the end of the 19th century. I for one, will not comply if this rule is enacted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To_The_Top Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 If they want to make it wilderness on the south side of Hood, then they should yank out the ski area too. All that light pollution, noise pollution...requiring skiers to pay to go there. There is even a way you can get a ride up and start the climb higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted December 3, 2001 Share Posted December 3, 2001 I think it is more likely that they will put a tram to the summit...For instance, look at Big Sky Ski Resort in Montana. Tram They blasted a level platform for that tram station on the summit with DYNAMITE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted December 3, 2001 Author Share Posted December 3, 2001 Actually, the Wilderness boundary starts up by Crater Rock. The rest of the climb is just regular FS land....which begs the question, how can they regulate from the parking lot at Timberline? Will they post a ranger at the boundary? Will they try to physically stop someone from proceeding if they have already climbed 4000 feet and have only 1000 to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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