RobBob Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Since people are discussing sleeping bags and shells, I'd like to ask a dumb question. Anyone seen a good deal recently on a mid-weight fleece jacket that would do for layering and by itself (no windstopper, etc.)? I left my good one in a rental car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 check out Jim Nelsons' site if you need some help on this fleece thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Give Sierra Trading Post, reioutlet.com, and Campmor a try. Midweight fleece jackets seem to be the bread and butta of the outdoor clothing industry, and as such are always available for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 check for cheapies at stores like Old Navy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 fleece=YUCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 RobBob, there's some Arc'teryx fleece pieces here. Â You now owe Dr. Flash Amazing, so be sure to be ready to assist the Doctor should the need arise. Â [ 10-30-2002, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Dr Flash Amazing ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 30, 2002 Share Posted October 30, 2002 Why didn't that work before? Â [ 10-30-2002, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Dr Flash Amazing ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted October 30, 2002 Author Share Posted October 30, 2002 Dear Dr., I actually had my eye on those earlier today...thanx! As for owing you, I think my insurance may be in the process of paying your office soon for that prescrip for "opthalmic thc" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Im really diggin' the patagonia R.5 and R1's these days over a fleece jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 That's right carolyn and Dru, the less fleece the better... I wear a 100 weight stretch fleece with smooth face as mid under softshell in active sports, reserving a snuggy warmer piece for rest breaks and bivy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Get a thin fleece and a soft shell to layer over top (or vice versa action suit style) instead of a heavy fleece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted October 31, 2002 Author Share Posted October 31, 2002 Okay, you guys have sold me on the light fleece. I have figured that I could shed some weight from my current combo, which has been a mid-weight fleece and a fairly heavy gore-tex shell if there's precip/wind. Â Now, what's the best soft-shell to go with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 quote: Originally posted by RobBob: Now, what's the best soft-shell to go with that? ?? ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted October 31, 2002 Author Share Posted October 31, 2002 This is a better type of soft-shell than that: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 When y'all are talking soft shells (barring tortillas and mollusks, of course), are you referring to the Schoeller Dryskin/Malden Powershield type pieces, or are you talking lighter-weight standard shells, e.g. Gore Pac-Lite or XCR type garments? Curious about the usefulness and pros/cons of the new crop of fleece laminate gear vs. a light shell and fleece combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 remember, DFA-fleece sux-the less fleece the better. a softshell with out a waterproof breathable barrier can be either shell like or a bicomponent weave like Scholler Dryskin. come down and see me at the shop if you need a full dissertation on the subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: When y'all are talking soft shells (barring tortillas and mollusks, of course), are you referring to the Schoeller Dryskin/Malden Powershield type pieces, or are you talking lighter-weight standard shells, e.g. Gore Pac-Lite or XCR type garments? Curious about the usefulness and pros/cons of the new crop of fleece laminate gear vs. a light shell and fleece combo. 80s dayglo Scott Franklin/Todd Skinner Lycra over long underwear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 "a light shell and fleece combo" is more versatile, IMO. Jackets that combine the two are prone to condensation and ice buildup at the fleece, nylon barrier when it's really cold. I, personally, don't think fleece sucks, but it's not the best to wear as an outer layer when it's snowing. Plus, fleece is super cheap if you avoid namebrands (TNF, BD, Mountain Hardwear, etc.). You can get a decent pullover for under $20 if you check out Shopko, Costco, Walmart, and others, and are not averse to wierd colors, or camo. Any fleece will pull moisture to its backing, so old-school pile, or borglite, will be dryer than two-sided fleece in which the two backinging are laminated together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 wool union suit with a 60/40 parka and some Joffe skipants, with the contour stitching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORER Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Remember you want to stay cool. Not warm and not cold. Cool muscles are more efficient. If you sweat under a hard shell, and it freezes, it will have zero breathability. The new Mountain Gear catalog has some deals on fleece; an Arc'teryx fleece jacket for $80.00. Â Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeclimb9 Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 Old Navy fleece jacket, $20 http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/product.asp?:=l&wdid=10060&wpid=167866 Old Navy fleece vest, $8 http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/product.asp?:=l&wdid=10060&wpid=167864 Is the Mountain Hardwear four times better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: Old Navy fleece jacket, $20 http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/product.asp?:=l&wdid=10060&wpid=167866 Old Navy fleece vest, $8 http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/product.asp?:=l&wdid=10060&wpid=167864 Is the Mountain Hardwear four times better? Uh at the North Face & Patagucci outlets you can get real fleece for less than twice that - and from my experience they'll last well more than twice as long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted October 31, 2002 Share Posted October 31, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: How's the durability and construction on Old Navy fleece gear, though? If they're using cheap-ass fleece that's going to get all matted down, pilled out, and worn thin and you have to buy a new one every year, then something more pricey might by worth it. How about stitching and zippers? Are they using cotton thread and low stitch counts so your seams blow out? Are the zippers cheap knockoffs that come apart if you tug on 'em? Can you get at the pockets with a pack on? Do they move with you and do the cuffs and waist stay put, or do they bind up and leave 6" of wrist and back exposed when you lift your arms? Â There are reasons that that big-name shit costs more dough. Sure, it's similar in some ways to a 20-dollar item, but it's not the same. Thanks man, that was really good information. Makes me want to go out and buy some cool new trendy shit. Now where's that new Mountain Gear catalog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 2nd for sierra trading post. i was just in their outlet, great selection, great prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted November 1, 2002 Share Posted November 1, 2002 speaking of which, a fucking snaffle made a burrow out of an MEC fleece i had in my garage, this means war. Â maybe when i catch him, i'll make a page top out of his hide. Â [ 10-31-2002, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: gapertimmy ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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