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Originally posted by Crackbolter:

In case you can't afford a Feathered Friends jacket, they have a deal for you! Take a look:

 

 

 

These jackets are 750 fill down and perfect for you hard core climbers! Layer these under a shell or use them as a shell on their own.

You must be an employee...

I get it, colin is crackbolter...sweet! your busted dude...

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YEAH U CAN SIMILAR ARTICLES OVER THE INTERNET AT HALF THE PRICE. PLUS NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH A CERTAIN EMPLOYEES FLAIR FOR BEING ANNOYING WHERE EVER HE MAY BE PRESENT.....

 

I ALSO HAVE TALKED TO A DOWN SPECIALIST AND HE SEZ YO STUFF AINT THE HIGHEST QUALITY....SO WHY PAY THE HIGHEST PRICE?? GRANTED HIS SHIT COSTS MORE AND HE'S BIASED, BUT SERIOUDLY FEATHERS PFFT...ASK BONE ABOUT FEATHERS.....

 

I AM BEING SERIOUS, THOUGH LETS SEE SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THE GOUGING....

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yeah erik, down can fuck you...especialy in the summer.

 

but I have to admit that my FF "Big Blue" has hooked me up many a cold winter night.

 

just to be fair, I have a Western Mountaineering down bag that kicks ass over all.

 

but come to think of it...I have decided to sell it all for cheap heavy synthetic...any takers?

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nice hiku trask...

 

this belongs in a different thread, but...

 

yeah your probably right. Yet our third partner had synthetic and was relatively warm (and soaked) the whole time.

 

the bibler didn't colapse in the wind (or I wouldn't be writting this), but I think it did have a lot to do with our moisture problems.

 

anyway, kiss it sucka [Moon]

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FLASK!? I MEAN TRASK, WHAT? JON IS THE FAT CHICK SPECIALIST......JUST LOOK AT TIMMAY H E HAS NEVER LOOKED SEXIER IN SOME JONGERIE'

 

[ 08-01-2002, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: erik ]

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Originally posted by Lambone:

yeah erik, down can fuck you...especialy in the summer.

No shit? Do you have to get it drunk? Erik take notes.......

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Originally posted by jon:

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Originally posted by Lambone:

yeah erik, down can fuck you...especialy in the summer.

No shit? Do you have to get it drunk? Erik take notes.......

tough werds coming from the "i'm too drunk to pee!! can you hold it for me?" skool of trasky male sluts.....
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Not that this threat is about good deals on down anymore, but the Doc recommends The North Face outlet's annual sale (Labor Day, maybe?) in Bend. Last year they were having something like 75% off store-wide, plus there was a coupon in the Bend Bulletin for an additional 10% on top of that. DFA scored one o' them 700 fill DryLoft jobbies for 95 bucks (cheaper than their regular down jackets). Not a bad savings over the original 300+ dollar price tag. Of course, TNF may not earn as many cool mountaineering points as FF or Western Mntnrng, but at the price, it's tough to bitch about it.

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Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing:

Not a bad savings over the original 300+ dollar price tag. Of course, TNF may not earn as many cool mountaineering points as FF or Western Mntnrng, but at the price, it's tough to bitch about it.

You'd be bitchin if you saw their labor force in Singapore. Besides, you don't really want to be a TNF poser do you? You can't get F>F or W>M stuff at your local Bon or Nordy's where they know you by first name Mr. Flash.

[laf]

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Originally posted by HeadSpace:

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PLUS NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH A CERTAIN EMPLOYEES FLAIR FOR BEING ANNOYING WHERE EVER HE MAY BE PRESENT.....

[Roll Eyes]

Dude
you
are annoying!
[laf]
you know what headspace, i was talking to my mom on the phone last week and she said the same thing......guess you are not the only one who shares that opinion. whats your point anyways....?

 

i love annoymous shit talkers!!! [big Drink]

 

[laf][laf][laf][laf][Cool]

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Originally posted by erik:

YEAH U CAN SIMILAR ARTICLES OVER THE INTERNET AT HALF THE PRICE. PLUS NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH A CERTAIN EMPLOYEES FLAIR FOR BEING ANNOYING WHERE EVER HE MAY BE PRESENT.....

 

I ALSO HAVE TALKED TO A DOWN SPECIALIST AND HE SEZ YO STUFF AINT THE HIGHEST QUALITY....SO WHY PAY THE HIGHEST PRICE?? GRANTED HIS SHIT COSTS MORE AND HE'S BIASED, BUT SERIOUDLY FEATHERS PFFT...ASK BONE ABOUT FEATHERS.....

 

I AM BEING SERIOUS, THOUGH LETS SEE SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR THE GOUGING....

I will admit to your first spray about certain employees. Can't change everyone. Does the dumbsh*t at RE*'s climbing department represent the climbing community? I think not. Even if HE thinks he does.

 

What I want to know is, what the hell is a down specialist? The only one I know is the one at Pacific Coast Feathers in Smoky Point and he could care less about a bunch of climbing products. Down is measured by volume per ounce. Plainly put, 800+ is the best that anyone can produce without using endangered ducks. Both Feathered Friends Nunatuk and Western Mountaineering are the only ones who use 800+ down. The fabrics that are used are the best in the industry, EPIC and E-Vent are used by more companies than you think. Some use different trade names though.(Patagonia "encapsil", etc.)

 

In the past, down was only available at 550+ and now things are more engineered for optimal usage. Hence the perfect fruit and veggies at our local grocers. The birds used now are now producing the best down ever.

 

The last reason is because you can't choose really detailed features. Imagine being allowed to choose exactly what interior fabric you want. This is only to help in saving weight or increasing/decreasing breathability. You get to choose from 4 or 5 interior fabrics: .8oz ripstop, 1.1 oz ripstop, 1.3oz taffeta, 1.3oz VBL, or polyester fleece.

You can choose these fabrics as an exterior fabric as well along with Epic or the laminate fabrics.

 

Now if you want say a half length zip, or 3/4 length zip; no problem. How about a little wider in the shoulders but narrower in the hips; no problem. Vice versa for the ladies. How about 5 years down the road adding more down; no problem. How about a half bag with .8 oz interior and exterior at 14 ounces; yup.

 

Oh yeah, if you need it in a jiffy, give them $30 credit at Northwest bottlewerks and you get it in less than 2 weeks made from scratch.

 

Mr Nunatuk was an old Feathered Friends employee at one point which is where many of his ideas came from. The Rock Wren was available 10 years before he went into business. The Raku is the result which won the Editor's choice from Backpacker. I would hope none of your guys ever read that publication since most of you are way more knowledgeable about products than any of the writers of that dirt rag.

 

I think now a days down is the best for weight, packability, durability and breathability. I must express the importance of fabrics for each application. You wouldn't want to use a non breathable fabric in a bivy sack and you wouldn't want to use a super breathable fabric if you were to expose the shell to moisture. Most important is to use the correct interior and exterior fabric in combination with the type of shelter you perfer. I like the bivy sack/tarp combo in low altitude areas which for the bag fabrics I go with Epic outer and .8 oz interior. Super light bag and packs down tiny. Weighs 2lbs 4 ounces at 20 F.

 

If you want my opinion about Lambone and his gear and partner selection, you can troll on someone else.

 

C.B.

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cb,

i do not troll.

 

i read your post and still wonder why the high price?? but dont worry i dont really care, thanks though! seriously!

 

one thing that came to mind, was the fact that you are putting a commerical advertisement. thought you were not supposed to do that?? then again like i said above, "i don't really care!"

 

take it easy!

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