prole Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Â Stop it! You're getting Prole all excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 What is he doing with his right hand? And 20 or 30 years from now, when we're still cleaning up the toxic mess they've "Left Behind", I'll still be worshiping Vladimir Ilich as a living god... and spanking to him   When are they gonna bury that sad fuck? I think it would be symbolic is so many ways. He doesn't look to have the hands of a worker--and is that nail polish?  Wankin' Prole's little dickie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairweather Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 [video:youtube] Â Careful, Prole! You're gonna get MattP all not selectively upset. You've clearly taken Spray to a new low! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Â It's a good thing Bug is not around to see this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 You guys ought to start clicking and dragging some of that atrocity porn in here so you can get in on the action! Kojak, I know you got the thing for mass graves. And FW, I think I've got you pegged for an erotic strangulation fetishist (preferably young Arab men). Party on, sorry but I've got to dip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Â good on you, Prole - head on out and earn some cash to pay off those loans! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hey, we can't all get paid to spray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009  certainly not with your degree  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I fucking hate California. Â Â But I'd pick it over Mexico right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Â And 20 or 30 years from now, when we're still cleaning up the toxic mess they've "Left Behind", you'll be worshiping GWB as a living god...just like Reagan. Â Alas - here we have someone who will never lack for purpose, and will find perpetual solace in an everlasting contempt for all aspects of the existing order. Keep chasing the mirage of the Great Dorm-Room Utopia over the next dune, good man, no matter what ramparts reality throws in your way! 'Tis the land where Critical Studies majors in skinny emo-jeans, converse high-tops, and turtlenecks have arisen from behind their counters at the comic-book stores, cast their vintage-frame glasses aside, and seized the commanding heights...onward, onward...you can almost see it from here... Â You're a trip, man. Despite the overwhelming and spectacular failure that your positions on everything from militarily remaking the world safe for American capitalism to "fixing broken windows" have been, you're still (weakly) casting poo at those who've been (correctly) pointing out that your ideological emperor's been butt-assed naked for the last 25 years. It's weak dude. Â Once again - the question becomes, compared to what? Which existing society most closely embodies your ideals, and why haven't you moved there? If no country that even roughly approximates your ideal visions has managed to persist for more than a few years or no longer exists, why *exactly* is that? Â I hate to break this to you, but the changes that an Obama administration or any successive administration brings about will be exceedingly minor in the grand scheme of things. Only an infinitesimal fraction of the traditions, laws, customs, principles, and beliefs that form the basis of the American way of life (which doesn't seem all that congenial to you) will change in the slightest over his administration, or the course of your life. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Once again - the question becomes, compared to what? Which existing society most closely embodies your ideals, and why haven't you moved there? If no country that even roughly approximates your ideal visions has managed to persist for more than a few years or no longer exists, why *exactly* is that? Â I hate to break this to you, but the changes that an Obama administration or any successive administration brings about will be exceedingly minor in the grand scheme of things. Only an infinitesimal fraction of the traditions, laws, customs, principles, and beliefs that form the basis of the American way of life (which doesn't seem all that congenial to you) will change in the slightest over his administration, or the course of your life. Enjoy. Â The real genius of William F Buckley (and when I say "real", I mean "only") was his ability to take what were essentially dumb, thuggish ideas and hang enough verbiage on them to make them sound smart. What you're really saying here is "America: love it or leave it". Barack Obama's message and the reality of the election of a black man as President in America a mere 40 years after Jim Crow stands not only in opposition to this idea, but makes the second part of your statement stink like the horseshit that it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Actually - I presented you with some very direct questions that could have been answered with a total of about 20 words or less. For example: Â " 1. Canada and New Zealand. 2. Need qualifications that I don't have and am not likely to get. 3. They've either quickly imploded or lapsed into totalitarianism. This is why I prefer to compare the US to hypothetical societies instead of real ones. " Â Easy. Â Â Obama is best explained as a manifestation of American values, ideals, beliefs, etc - rather than a repudiation of all things American. Â Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Can someone bring me up to snuff real quick on this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 jayb posted something about california turning into mexico. people argued from their usual pulpits on tangents to the topic. Â then you changed it into a snuff thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Who the fuck is JayB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 some dude who likes to talk about ARMs, which in the hands of naive people (AKA liberals) have created great opportunities for the free market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Obama is best explained as a manifestation of American values, ideals, beliefs, etc - rather than a repudiation of all things American. Â Yes, in spite of the American conservative movement's best efforts. I only wish Mister Jesse and Mister Strom were here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 some dude who likes to talk about ARMs, which in the hands of naive people (AKA liberals) have created great opportunities for the free market. Â Â Good read. I think it's set in Wallingford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 does that chick have a lot of arms or am I just seeing things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 get it? Arms? Â I'll be here all week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dechristo Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Shiva the Destroyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i'm pretty sure thats an extremely large tape worm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 this is mexico: Â http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/4299116/Mexico-police-chiefs-head-found-in-ice-box.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayB Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 this is mexico: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/mexico/4299116/Mexico-police-chiefs-head-found-in-ice-box.html  One more argument for legalizing drugs.  [Fantasy]Deprive the narco-terrorists of their money and use it to fund the budget shortfall in California. The taxes on the sale of cocaine alone, given Californian's apetite for the stuff, would go a long way towards plugging the gap.[/Fantasy].  Back in reality-land, nothing like this will happen any time soon, and the profits realized from drug-prohibition will continue to drive Mexio towards failed-state status.  Given a choice between dead American addicts who hopped into their graves with their eyes open, and dead Mexican policemen who made the mistake of trying to enforce the law - I'll gladly take the former over the latter.  Although I think it's dumb as hell, anyone who wants to inject themselves with paint thinner, snort drano, gargle lead, crush their junk in a vise...or shoot heroin, snort coke...should be free to do so. If they do so in public or they harm someone else as a consequence of whatever it is that they put into their bodies - that's where the law should start.     Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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