Art and War -- both are a waste of money??

[minx]

waste of money?

 

Well with the fall of Lehman Bros, it seems the economy remains on shaky ground. I saw some artistic looking acoustic panels on a freeway project recently. Made me wonder, is public spending on Art justified in poor economic times. How about war?

[prole]

"Public art" is always a waste of money. Just look at this crap. Giving money to artists on the other hand... We wouldn't be in this mess.

[Gary_Yngve]

There's some great art on that page, including "The Bean" in Chicago's Millennium Park. If you've never been to there and seen people participate with the installation, you can STFU.

 

I really like the art in Seattle.. without art, our cities would look like East Berlin.

[olyclimber]

what. the. hell.

 

[prole]

Oh I like art, I like art in public spaces. Unfortunately, most works commissioned by the State are the adult equivalent of the Teletubbies: vacant, banal, decontextualized gobbledegook. At worst it's merely a reconstitution of corporate and State power: East Berlin with Cows.

[billcoe]

Every same one of us, if we had to pick only one, would pick art....almost every single time. Art's cost is a one time shot and cheap in comparison. Even big brother gobment art.

[kevbone]

Who cares Minx? Jeez.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice troll.

[minx]

kevbone stfu. it was a serious question. i like art but i question the wisdom of spending tax dollars to support it.

[hafilax]

What about all of the art that has been inspired by war?

 

Art and culture draw people. Do you think that people live in New York because they love the crowds? There is a lot going on there artistically. A part of the goal of public art works is to draw tourists and more importantly permanent residents. There is a financial payoff from having a globally recognized art instillation or even overall cultural draw. People plan vacations around architecture.

 

I went to the EMP partially to see what the hell was inside the melted jelly bean and discovered that the inside is far more appealing and will return because it is interesting.

 

For many, art is business. The real question is when is art compromised by business.

[G-spotter]

Sun Tzu said war is art.

[prole]

Ask a Canadian artist. Or better yet a whole bunch of them. Then again, their population isn't comprised of a near majority of belligerents. Is there a connection?

[STP]

This is what Joyce would term improper art: Television tower in Prague.

 

Do you see those black things on the tower? What do they look like?

 

To get a better sense of it, see the series of pictures here: http://deputy-dog.com/2008/07/17/ever-seen-a-creepier-tower/

 

 

[prole]

"The artist, however faithful to his personal vision of reality, becomes the last champion of the individual mind and sensibility against an intrusive society and an officious state. The great artist is thus a solitary figure. [...] In pursuing his perceptions of reality, he must often sail against the currents of his time. This is not a popular role. [...] I see little of more importance to the future of our country and our civilization than full recognition of the place of the artist. If art is to nourish the roots of our culture, society must set the artist free to follow his vision wherever it takes him. We must never forget that art is not a form of propaganda; it is a form of truth. [...] In free society art is not a weapon and it does not belong to the spheres of polemic and ideology. Artists are not engineers of the soul. [...] And the nation which disdains the mission of art invites the fate of Robert Frost's hired man, the fate of having 'nothing to look backward to with pride, and nothing to look forward to with hope.'" - President John F. Kennedy, in remarks given at Amherst College, October 26, 1963

[tvashtarkatena]

Total waste of money:

 

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[tvashtarkatena]

WTF?

 

[tvashtarkatena]

Fuckin' bullshit!

 

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