minx Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 waste of money? Well with the fall of Lehman Bros, it seems the economy remains on shaky ground. I saw some artistic looking acoustic panels on a freeway project recently. Made me wonder, is public spending on Art justified in poor economic times. How about war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 "Public art" is always a waste of money. Just look at this crap. Giving money to artists on the other hand... We wouldn't be in this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 There's some great art on that page, including "The Bean" in Chicago's Millennium Park. If you've never been to there and seen people participate with the installation, you can STFU. I really like the art in Seattle.. without art, our cities would look like East Berlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 what. the. hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Oh I like art, I like art in public spaces. Unfortunately, most works commissioned by the State are the adult equivalent of the Teletubbies: vacant, banal, decontextualized gobbledegook. At worst it's merely a reconstitution of corporate and State power: East Berlin with Cows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billcoe Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Every same one of us, if we had to pick only one, would pick art....almost every single time. Art's cost is a one time shot and cheap in comparison. Even big brother gobment art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Who cares Minx? Jeez..... Nice troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 kevbone stfu. it was a serious question. i like art but i question the wisdom of spending tax dollars to support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hafilax Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 What about all of the art that has been inspired by war? Art and culture draw people. Do you think that people live in New York because they love the crowds? There is a lot going on there artistically. A part of the goal of public art works is to draw tourists and more importantly permanent residents. There is a financial payoff from having a globally recognized art instillation or even overall cultural draw. People plan vacations around architecture. I went to the EMP partially to see what the hell was inside the melted jelly bean and discovered that the inside is far more appealing and will return because it is interesting. For many, art is business. The real question is when is art compromised by business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-spotter Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Sun Tzu said war is art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Ask a Canadian artist. Or better yet a whole bunch of them. Then again, their population isn't comprised of a near majority of belligerents. Is there a connection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STP Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 This is what Joyce would term improper art: Television tower in Prague. Do you see those black things on the tower? What do they look like? To get a better sense of it, see the series of pictures here: http://deputy-dog.com/2008/07/17/ever-seen-a-creepier-tower/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prole Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 "The artist, however faithful to his personal vision of reality, becomes the last champion of the individual mind and sensibility against an intrusive society and an officious state. The great artist is thus a solitary figure. [...] In pursuing his perceptions of reality, he must often sail against the currents of his time. This is not a popular role. [...] I see little of more importance to the future of our country and our civilization than full recognition of the place of the artist. If art is to nourish the roots of our culture, society must set the artist free to follow his vision wherever it takes him. We must never forget that art is not a form of propaganda; it is a form of truth. [...] In free society art is not a weapon and it does not belong to the spheres of polemic and ideology. Artists are not engineers of the soul. [...] And the nation which disdains the mission of art invites the fate of Robert Frost's hired man, the fate of having 'nothing to look backward to with pride, and nothing to look forward to with hope.'" - President John F. Kennedy, in remarks given at Amherst College, October 26, 1963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Total waste of money: [img:left]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3112/2870739046_f11806f9ce.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 Fuckin' bullshit! [img:left]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3093/2870751496_f7c6a3b4c1_o.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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