tvashtarkatena Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Senate passes bill expanding spying powers, granting immunity to telecoms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00015#top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Conway Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 sweet, now porter will be watching the pr0n along with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Your senators work? How do you accomplish that? Is it really a good idea? I've always kind of suspected that, if our senators started to work, they could be dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 It used to be that all our senators did was take a few harmless bribes. Somehow along the way, some fucking idiot came up with the idea of the 'hard working senator'; now they do maximum damage as many hours a day as they can remain awake, which means the rest of us will have to work 3 times as hard to undo or just survive the damage they do. Thanks, senators. Fucking pricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Maybe you should try appointing them, instead of electing them. That way they don't feel they have to show they've "earned" their position, and they quickly go to sleep. Works like a charm up here. And I think the Public Works Department pipes CO2 into the Red chamber. Not enough to knock them out or kill them: just enough to ensure a nice dozy stupor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Oh, Canada! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 You sure gotta wonder what is the point of having an opposition party if they won't oppose the party in power. They not only rubberstamped the Bush Admin's clear violation of the Constitution, they sent a strong message to those that helped with this that we really don't care. I'm still waiting for somebody - anybody - to make a compelling case that any of this has actually done us any good. It'd be one thing if I thought that the sacrifice of civil rights and freedom from government intrusion was actually making us safer - we could then have an argument over whether it is worth it. But here it seems a bunch of politicians just want to appear "tough on terror" without putting any real substance into such an effort and they are willing to shred the Constitution in order to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 We are so screwed. Quick. Join the Republican party now before the brownshirts start knocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 You sure gotta wonder what is the point of having an opposition party if they won't oppose the party in power. There are a few who do, Mr P. I may have my issues with Jim McDermott, but he's from our state, from my congressional district, and he's my fucking Congressman. He said NO! I saw him at an event a few months after. He looked beat up... actually, he got beat up at our event. I felt bad. As he walked out to his car, I stopped him on the sidewalk, shook his hand and thanked him for doing the right thing. He's one of the few who did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I agree with you, Toast, that there is the occasional maverick or in some cases maybe the opportunistic politician who figures out that a vote against the status quo will win them points in their home district. But really: the Democrats said that if we elected them to majority status they'd clean up Washington and restore honor and independence to our nation's capitol. This has not happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell both voted NO on this one. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couloir Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 You sure gotta wonder what is the point of having an opposition party if they won't oppose the party in power. They not only rubberstamped the Bush Admin's clear violation of the Constitution, they sent a strong message to those that helped with this that we really don't care. Perhaps they opposed it to get re-elected, but in actuality, believe that(and think it's not a violation of the Constitution) what the president is doing is right. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvashtarkatena Posted February 13, 2008 Author Share Posted February 13, 2008 Every once in a while a bullshit side issue will come along that will keep Congress busy enough to limit their damage quota. One word: steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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