Good buget first pair of tools

[KingsMM]

I'm looking at tools to buy for this winter. I'm on a budget. I'm looking to do WI and some Alpine routes with them. Maybe a bit of dry tooling but not much. What would you recommend? What about the STUBAI HORNET for 100$ each? Tools are so expensive i don't want to buy the wrong pair.

Thanks,

Kip

[John Frieh]

225 for a way better set of tools

[olyclimber]

I might be talked out of my BD Cobras (two hammers, but I have an adze attachment to throw in too). They have the leashless mod on them (removable), and are in great shape. ***SOLD***

 

 

Edited October 17, 2007 by porter

[fenderfour]

Used tools are definitely the best first set of tools, especially with the release of the next-gen BD tools.

 

The rage's that John is selling are very good. You can equip them with a bunch of doo-dads to make them leashless.

 

The Cobras that Porter is offering are lighter and transmit less vibration. Attaching leashless doo-dads is a littl emore difficult, but still possible.

[fenderfour]

Used tools are definitely the best first set of tools, especially with the release of the next-gen BD tools.

 

The rage's that John is selling are very good. You can equip them with a bunch of doo-dads to make them leashless.

 

The Cobras that Porter is offering are lighter and transmit less vibration. Attaching leashless doo-dads is a littl emore difficult, but still possible.

[olyclimber]

I might be talked out of my BD Cobras (two hammers, but I have an adze attachment to throw in too). They have the leashless mod on them (removable), and are in great shape. $250 for the pair.

 

PM if interested.

 

***SOLD*** Here is a pic for those interested:

 

I'm not including the androids i have with them.

Edited October 17, 2007 by porter

[jmace]

Goig budget on tools is one the worst things you can ever do..sure by second hand but go grab a bunch of tools at the stor and see what you like and dont like then try and find somes used tools..for instance the tools porter has I cannont stand, climbed on them a few times and to me their the worst tools on the market..but my parnter loves them..so be careful cause having a bad or slighty lame tool is the worst feeling in the world even worse if you only had to kick in another 100$ to have the best

[Jens]

All the tools that the guys just posted about to buy are good.

I'd steer clear of the stubai's as you'll have a harder time getting replacement picks.

When I started climbing, Stubai's were king of the hill...but no longer.

[KingsMM]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to buy the Rages from John.