wayne Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 They are getting desparate to keep them faithfull. Quote
wayne Posted August 7, 2007 Author Posted August 7, 2007 "The Christian Embassy has become a quaisi-federal entity" Something tells me this story will get silenced. Quote
wayne Posted August 7, 2007 Author Posted August 7, 2007 Where is our own neo-con response to this. I would really be interested in how you spin this one.There is great reason the founders created the separation. One of the great advances of mankind as I see it. Quote
Manifest Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 It won't get "silenced", Wayne, it will simply die. It is non-news. Must have been a slow news day. Quote
olyclimber Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 FROM CROOKS AND LIARS THE RELIABLE NEWS SOURCE: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/06/worst-excuse-ever/ Quote
lI1|1! Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 ® you'd think some stocky black men would intimidate him into voting to fund some social programs. Quote
archenemy Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 Isn't one of the things that soldiers are fighting for is freedom of religion? Quote
joblo7 Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 the separation of church and state should not be construed to mean ' the separation of spirituality and state'. this country was founded upon spiritual values. some trader-types want the separation , to better advance their 'ideals' of commerce, unchecked by deeper spiritual values, social conscience and similar hindrances. Quote
joblo7 Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 Isn't one of the things that soldiers are fighting for is freedom of religion? no! they are fighting for money.( we owe 8 trillions) Quote
archenemy Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 the separation of church and state should not be construed to mean ' the separation of spirituality and state'. this country was founded upon spiritual values. I hate to point out the obvious, but they were Christians, Puritans, Quakers and the like. Not "spiritualists". Not that Christian values aren't shared by other religions as well; but let's not take the current fad of "Oh, I'm not religious but I'm spiritual" and overlay it onto the early folks who founded our country. Quote
lI1|1! Posted August 9, 2007 Posted August 9, 2007 the separation of church and state should not be construed to mean ' the separation of spirituality and state'. i think the problem with this is reaching a consensual agreement on what those spiritual values are. for instance, some people think not having an abortion is spititually good and some people think a freedom of choice for women is spititually good. your logic is hopelessly flawed. Quote
Dechristo Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 the separation of church and state should not be construed to mean ' the separation of spirituality and state'. i think the problem with this is reaching a consensual agreement on what those spiritual values are. for instance, some people think not having an abortion is spititually good and some people think a freedom of choice for women is spititually good. your logic is hopelessly flawed. I don't believe V7 (one turnip shy of a V8?) feels constrained by logic. ...spititually... what is "spit-tit-chewelly"? Quote
Jim Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) I hate to point out the obvious, but they were Christians, Puritans, Quakers and the like. Not "spiritualists". Not that Christian values aren't shared by other religions as well; but let's not take the current fad of "Oh, I'm not religious but I'm spiritual" and overlay it onto the early folks who founded our country. True. And that is why it is especially impressive that they took special pains to make sure that religion was seperate from government. Edited August 10, 2007 by Jim Quote
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