kurthicks Posted April 10, 2007 Posted April 10, 2007 it should be mentioned that all tools are on sale. Nomics - $199, Fusions $149, aztars $149, etc. Quote
Chad_A Posted April 10, 2007 Posted April 10, 2007 Hmmmm....discontinuation, or just spring clearance, I wonder. Quote
kurthicks Posted April 10, 2007 Posted April 10, 2007 probably some of both... cobras are $199 for example Quote
Couloir Posted April 11, 2007 Author Posted April 11, 2007 it should be mentioned that all tools are on sale. Nomics - $199, Fusions $149, aztars $149, etc. Yeah, good point Kurt. I saw them all on sale, I should have mentioned that. Surprisingly the Quarks weren't marked on the rack, I only saw them online. I grabbed a hammer and there were a hammer and an adze left. Plus the tools you mentioned. Â Perhaps they're getting out of the hardware business, but it seems they do sell-through what limited stuff they carry...at least here in Portland. I'm waiting for the screws to be marked down. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 11, 2007 Posted April 11, 2007 Doubt it's a discontinuation. Quarks have been around for years, and they're still highly rated. Great tool. PC got it right with that one. Â As for the Portland ice screws...I bought the remainder of REI's inventory of PC laser sonics when they were on sale. Sorry about that. Maybe the BD's will be marked down at some point. Quote
John Frieh Posted April 11, 2007 Posted April 11, 2007 New BD ice screw next year. Beats the shit out of everything. Â Quarks are not being discontinued... PC is releasing an attachment similar to the BD strike for the quark. Quote
Couloir Posted April 11, 2007 Author Posted April 11, 2007 Similar price point on the new screws? Quote
Chad_A Posted April 11, 2007 Posted April 11, 2007 New BD ice screw next year. Beats the shit out of everything. Quarks are not being discontinued... PC is releasing an attachment similar to the BD strike for the quark.  Care to elaborate on the new BD screws? What did they make so much better on them? Quote
gt5816v Posted April 12, 2007 Posted April 12, 2007 They auto-install. You just visualize the placement and it happens... Quote
kurthicks Posted April 12, 2007 Posted April 12, 2007 if they are the ones i saw 2 seasons ago, they are sweet. 2 clip in points, quick to start, repositioned knobs, etc. buy buy buy! Quote
John Frieh Posted April 12, 2007 Posted April 12, 2007 Kurt covered most of it...  - 2 clip in points on the hanger for cleaner belays and/or less leverage on the screw in overhanging terrain (not that 97% of people on this site would ever find themselves on terrain that steep )  - in addition to 2 clip in points the hanger has a different finish  - the knob is much larger and tapered so it is even easier to grasp/spin  - knobs are color coded for size using same scheme as camalots (red, yellow, etc etc)  the clincher on the new design (at least for me) is the teeth length has been increased... in the right hands (i.e someone that climbs ice more than 5x days a year and no TRing in a glacier doesn't count) this will result in much faster and easier starting of a placement... no more pumping out while trying to get a screw started  all of these features coupled with the ice screw that fractures ice the least when placed makes for the best screw on the market IMO  I'll try to get a photo or two posted Quote
wdietsch Posted April 12, 2007 Posted April 12, 2007 I'll try to get a photo or two posted     Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted April 13, 2007 Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) Looks like they followed Petzl's lead and went with stainless heads to reduce melt out. Â They still feature that annoying little flip out crank...tough to manipulate in colder temps with thicker gloves on. Edited April 13, 2007 by tvashtarkatena Quote
syklone Posted April 14, 2007 Posted April 14, 2007 John, Â Let me know when you start selling all your old screws because you are replacing your rack with the new ones! Quote
Chad_A Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 Thanks much for the info. They do look sweet...though I'm sure the old version will work fine for me while I get good enough to need the new version  (i.e someone that climbs ice more than 5x days a year and no TRing in a glacier doesn't count)  Speak for yourself, John. Come September/October, I'll take what I can get! Quote
John Frieh Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 When are they available? Â This fall. Â I'll try to snap a few close up pics of the hanger, teeth, etc tomorrow. Â (i.e someone that climbs ice more than 5x days a year and no TRing in a glacier doesn't count) Â Speak for yourself, John. Come September/October, I'll take what I can get! Â Sept/Oct: Columbia Ice Fields or TRing in a glacier... hmmm... Â This: Â Â or this... Â Â Â Quote
Chad_A Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Haha, don't get me wrong. I was there too.... Â Â ....but if I only have one day off to do something, well then, the Eliot's fine with me. Quote
John Frieh Posted April 30, 2007 Posted April 30, 2007 As requested. PM me if you want the full size ones  Quote
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