Seahawks Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 (edited) Should anyone lost, hurt or stranded in a wilderness have to pay the costs of their rescue? Choices *Yes *Yes, that would encourage better decision-making. Why should I subsidize stupidity? *No *No. Where would we make a cutoff? Do we charge crime victims for a police call if they get shot in an area known for high crime or during night hours? *Other or don't know WWW.seattlepi.com Edited February 22, 2007 by Seahawks Quote
Seahawks Posted February 23, 2007 Author Posted February 23, 2007 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/304574_mountained.asp Look at the bottom and the comment section. Quote
jon Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I heard Baby Jessica never paid for her rescue. What bullshit! Quote
RogerJ Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Maybe the fire department can do a quick credit check prior to dragging people out of burning buildings. -r Quote
catbirdseat Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) It may be bullshit, but I encourage all climbers to vote in this poll. This sort of thing can be used to influence lawmakers and we should be heard. Vote early and vote often. Hmmm. Tried deleting cookies and I still couldn't vote again. They must keep track of IP addresses or something. Oly? Edited February 23, 2007 by catbirdseat Quote
Crux Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Here two browsers, two votes. Now use back-up dial-up, try it again. Quote
Crux Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 If cookie or IP then has_voted = true Else has_voted = false If has_voted then show_poll_results Else show_ballot Quote
archenemy Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I am baffled as to how people see themselves as taxpayers and somehow think climbers are not also taxpayers. Especially funny with our FUck Taxes thread going on right now. Quote
RogerJ Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I am baffled as to how people see themselves as taxpayers and somehow think climbers are not also taxpayers. Especially funny with our FUck Taxes thread going on right now. The same shit happens wiht cycling and other endeavors. I was once riding my bike and some asshole shouted out the window "Pay your taxes". WTF? Anyhow, vote early and vote often. -r Quote
foraker Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 We need to wage an email campaign against the media asking if lost hikers should wear beacons and should pay for their own rescues every time one happens. IIRC, YOSAR only charged you something if they felt you had done something egregiously stupid. Quote
Dannible Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 My professor asked me what I though about all of this in class the other day, and I think I changed his mind on the subject by just telling him like it really is. Most people are not so ready to give up their opinion though, even with facts in front of them. The less you know about an issue the easier it is to find an expert solution. Quote
foraker Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Most people are not so ready to give up their opinion though, even with facts in front of them. The less you know about an issue the easier it is to find an expert solution. Witness debates re global warming, evolution, fluoridation, vaccination, etc. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I'm anti global warming, pro evolution, anti fluoridation, pro vaccination, anti oxidation, and pro crastination. Quote
dmuja Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Yes, this isn't the "information age" so much as it is the "information that I find that supports my opinion" age. that was funny tv, im pro phylactic Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I'm anti gonizing and pro mature ejaculation. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I'm anti thesis and pro nography. Some say I'm the Anti Christ, but I say I'm just pro Gnostic. Quote
sobo Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 That used to be you, didn't it? Now you've been "upgraded" to just a sinner? Quote
archenemy Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Now I am a parody of myself, aren't I? I gotta change that. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 I prefer to think of the Anti Christ as a state of, rather than individual, being. A movement, you will. And, in times of GI distress, a particularly difficult movement. Quote
Dechristo Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 It's in those difficult moments I'm most often heard screaming, "JESUS CHRIST!" Quote
archenemy Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Funny, I cry that during those beautiful moments... Quote
Clavote Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Maybe the fire department can do a quick credit check prior to dragging people out of burning buildings. -r They could learn a lot from Hospitals. Quote
tvashtarkatena Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 It's in those difficult moments I'm most often heard screaming, "JESUS CHRIST!" That's exactly what my wife screams when I finally open the WC door...or it opens itself. Quote
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