sexual_chocolate Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 So wouldn't this be a perfect time to try the Index route, what's-it-called, eve dearborn memorial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorTravis Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 If you have to ask on a website conditions won't be your biggest concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Unless you were daring some wanna be hardman. then you would just post about it and see what happens. But it isn't going to work. all the wannabe hardmen on this board are too smart for the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Could enough now but the condition of the crux pitches is anyone's guess. It's supposed to warm up a fair at the weekend. I'd be concerned about getting in a 2000' high couloir with half a foot of new show in it - if you assume that Index got about the same as Stevens on Wednesday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorTravis Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 all the wannabe hardmen and women know that fresh snow + no warm period = lots and lots and lots of unconsolidated snow to wade through... Â ...hopefully some gumby punters will take the carrot and install a bootpack on Big 4 and Index so next weekend when everything has settled out the wannabe hardmen can send with ease... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexual_chocolate Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 If you have to ask on a website conditions won't be your biggest concern. Â thank you so much for your expert opinion. now piss off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 like i said....they are too smart for the room. Â travis, you're obviously no wanna be hardman. a wanna be hardman wouldn't reveal his secrets for getting the bootpack in on the interwebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorTravis Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 these are not the droids you are looking for   or... in this case... these are not the routes you should be climbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Forgive me. You seem a little confused... all the wannabe hardmen and women know that fresh snow + no warm period = lots and lots and lots of unconsolidated snow to wade through... ...hopefully some gumby punters will take the carrot and install a bootpack on Big 4 and Index so next weekend when everything has settled out the wannabe hardmen can send with ease...  Big 4 or Colchuck!?!?!?  Which one to choose? They both sound like a great idea! Check your PMs Justin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMo Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 EDM, is that the W Face of N Peak? Â It really isn't all that cold, and worse yet it's clear and stuff is really loaded up...so...this would be a perfect time to get flushed out the bottom of whatever gully you chose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The forecast says it's not going to get much above 20 during the day and will be around 10 in Index tonight. Â You saying that isn't so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Travis - The funny thing about this post is how much harder sexual chocolate climbs than you, but in your ignorance you go off on a condescending kick about an innocent question about Mt. Index. You badass. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterMo Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 The forecast says it's not going to get much above 20 during the day and will be around 10 in Index tonight. You saying that isn't so?  No where near that cold in Index. only down to 7 here at the pass overnite.  The main issue is the clear skies. Index sorta constantly flushes when it's like that. An overcast combined with cold temps makes things a lot safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 If you have to ask on a website conditions won't be your biggest concern. Â thank you so much for your expert opinion. now piss off. Â Â Ha, ha, ha....SC got burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevbone Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Travis - The funny thing about this post is how much harder sexual chocolate climbs than you, Â Who cares how hard anyone climbs? If you do...your missing the point of climbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony_Bentley Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Gosh every post is speculation. Nice work guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 So Stuart and I were in there today. Half a foot of soft fluff on top of an unconsolidated base. By the time we reached the base of the west face it was postholing when out of the trees. The base just hadn't consolidated enough. Lots of wallowing basically. It was pretty cold lots of ice drips had formed but quite a bit of running water too - more than whe we climbed the face last year. Â What we could see of the upper pitches of the EDM and Murphy's Law - a long way away at the base. Neither looked like they formed continuous lines, although the very top of the EDM was hidden. Several of the top pitches of ML looked like bare rock. Â I think we need some more warm cycles and wet snow to fall and then another cold snap to bring things into condition on the west face at least. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jens Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Thanks ade for the valuable info. I had two buddies in their this weekend also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 If that was Trog and co we met them on the way in and out. More wallowing there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BachelorTravis Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 So Stuart and I were in there today. Half a foot of soft fluff on top of an unconsolidated base. By the time we reached the base of the west face it was postholing when out of the trees. The base just hadn't consolidated enough. Lots of wallowing basically.  I think we need some more warm cycles and wet snow to fall and then another cold snap to bring things into condition on the west face at least.  ahem... ahem...  all the wannabe hardmen and women know that fresh snow + no warm period = lots and lots and lots of unconsolidated snow to wade through... ...hopefully some gumby punters will take the carrot and install a bootpack on Big 4 and Index so next weekend when everything has settled out the wannabe hardmen can send with ease...  Guess they don't teach cascade snow condition analysis at crossfit  Thanks for the bootpack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 You seem to have the knack of hitting Index when the conditions aren't so great. There are plenty of other albeit less obvious options all around the area. If you just want the guidebook tick I’ll keep my fingers crossed for better conditions but if your enthused about the area go exploring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alasdair Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 You seem to have the knack of hitting Index when the conditions aren't so great. There are plenty of other albeit less obvious options all around the area. If you just want the guidebook tick I’ll keep my fingers crossed for better conditions but if your enthused about the area go exploring.  What makes you so sure he was going for a route in the guidebook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_Puget Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Ya good point...I guess only because the constant references to Eve Dearborn and a projection of my personal views concerning the west side of the Index. Althought there is a cool arete in there somewhere.. Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyHarry Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 So Stuart and I were in there today. Â Back for more, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Get some. Go again. Â Travis - Why don't you go climb something worth telling us about and then come post about it. So far all I see is a bunch of worthless posts about what you're going to do when conditions get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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