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I would think they would make an exception for secretions.

great, they'll ban me. unfrigging believable

 

These guys must not have read the NYT story about the monitoritoring of the wires passing through the SWIFT network. Hopefully they'll get a sweet settlement and a swift apology from Scotland Yard.

 

"A number of events are understood to have convinced the counter-terrorist agencies to act. A telephone call about the alleged plot was intercepted, internet communication increased noticeably and two men under surveillance disappeared off the intelligence radar. However, security sources indicated that the key event — thought to be the transfer of funds — had taken place overseas. “It was very close, and it was too risky to allow the surveillance operation to go on for any longer,” one source said.

 

These are the names of 19 suspects reportedly being held by the police after the foiled plot and whose assets the Treasury has sought to have frozen.

 

Umir Hussain, 24, London E14

 

Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17

 

Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17

 

Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17

 

Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe

 

Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17

 

Cossor Ali, 24, London E17

 

Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham

 

Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17

 

Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17

 

Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington

 

Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17

 

Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe

 

Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10

 

Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe

 

Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe

 

Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17

 

Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5

 

Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest"

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Trivialities like this are just the thing to stoke the flagging ennervation, eh?

 

Kind of an LA-post-consumer-riff on the senescent English gentry's take on events across the channel in the mid-30's.

 

"Oh yes darling - that - do pass the tea..."

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It's been interesting to watch a segment of the electorate on their journey from dissapointment, to cynicism, to paranoia, to delusion.

 

Since you've uncovered the facts behind this election year shenanigan, Mr_Phil, I hope you'll be kind enough to share them with us. Take as much space as you need.

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It's been interesting to watch a segment of the electorate on their journey from dissapointment, to cynicism, to paranoia, to delusion.

the WMD are just around the corner JayB, really they are, Saddam had an active menancing weapons development program that could produce hundreds of devices, it just evaporated into thin air.

 

 

Oh, and here's more of your hero "heck of a job Chertie" at work

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11863165/

fucking assbags - the herd of typing monkeys known as cc.com could do a better job

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Tired retort. I don't think I've ever argued that anyone found WMD in Iraq. I did believe that there was a high probability that he had them before the invasion proved otherwise, and that, at a minimum, he'd actively pursue them once the flagging sanctions regime was either dropped alogether or became so porous as to be meaningless. I was wrong about the first, and we'll never know about the second.

 

It's one thing to make a judgement before all of the facts are in, and quite another to refuse to accept them once they are known.

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It's one thing to make a judgement before all of the facts are in, and quite another to refuse to accept them once they are known.

 

And what would that be other than a "Tired retort"

 

You realize each airport security shitfest Osama cackles with glee? He won this battle JayB

 

ter·ror - n. - The ability to instill intense fear

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Intense fear is one thing, appropriate precautions are another.

 

Do you leave your life savings on the front porch, or keep them in a bank? If it's the latter, then clearly the criminals have succeeded in terrorizing you into a state of thoughtless fear.

 

As far as the airport cluster goes, applying a rational screening methodology would go a long way towards addressing that. Let's remember that the primary reason for the megacluster is the fact that we've been forced to accept the polite fiction that every passenger is equally likely to use the plane as a vehicle for slaughter.

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I would think they would make an exception for secretions.

great, they'll ban me. unfrigging believable

 

These guys must not have read the NYT story about the monitoritoring of the wires passing through the SWIFT network. Hopefully they'll get a sweet settlement and a swift apology from Scotland Yard.

 

"A number of events are understood to have convinced the counter-terrorist agencies to act. A telephone call about the alleged plot was intercepted, internet communication increased noticeably and two men under surveillance disappeared off the intelligence radar. However, security sources indicated that the key event — thought to be the transfer of funds — had taken place overseas. “It was very close, and it was too risky to allow the surveillance operation to go on for any longer,” one source said.

 

These are the names of 19 suspects reportedly being held by the police after the foiled plot and whose assets the Treasury has sought to have frozen.

 

Umir Hussain, 24, London E14

 

Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17

 

Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17

 

Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17

 

Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe

 

Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17

 

Cossor Ali, 24, London E17

 

Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham

 

Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17

 

Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17

 

Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington

 

Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17

 

Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe

 

Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10

 

Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe

 

Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe

 

Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17

 

Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5

 

Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest"

 

Based on the list of names, ages, etc, clearly there is no way we could apply rules for screening other than to include blue-haired old ladies, and mothers breast-feeding their children. rolleyes.gif

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It's a little too much to be asking a government bureaucracy headed by these goobers to come up with a rational solution to anything. It's not too much to ask that they (or anyone) don't use it for obvious political purposes. And it is pretty effing obvious....

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Intense fear is one thing, appropriate precautions are another.

 

Do you leave your life savings on the front porch, or keep them in a bank? If it's the latter, then clearly the criminals have succeeded in terrorizing you into a state of thoughtless fear.

 

As far as the airport cluster goes, applying a rational screening methodology would go a long way towards addressing that. Let's remember that the primary reason for the megacluster is the fact that we've been forced to accept the polite fiction that every passenger is equally likely to use the plane as a vehicle for slaughter.

 

yawn, same old bullshit.

 

Al Qaeda did a test run of the same thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434

12 years ago there was supposed to have been ahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bojinka

similar operation, but that was foiled. For some reason only now are ipods and water a massive threat, just when they need to stir up fears of "terrorism" in the backwoods redneck fucktards who are least at risk, but fear it most.

 

As for you KK - ask the russians how well letting women escape screening works.

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"For some reason only now are ipods and water a massive threat, just when they need to stir up fears of "terrorism" in the backwoods redneck fucktards who are least at risk, but fear it most."

 

 

So - just for the record - you *literally* believe that this was a hoax undertaken by the British government at the behest of the Bush administration, in order to garner more Republican votes in November.

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So - just for the record - you *literally* believe that this was a hoax undertaken by the British government at the behest of the Bush administration, in order to garner more Republican votes in November.

I've never said nor implied it was a hoax.

 

I find it very interesting that Al Qaeda used this modus operandi 12 years ago, but TSA has allowed their preferred smuggling method to go on free and clear until after the perpetrators of a similar plot have been arrested!

 

The threat was probably very real, the TSA trained monkey carnival is pure political theater.

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bleat ask them how they deal baaahhh with terrorists once found, bleat and how they inter their remains.baahhh

well, these were spread over the steppe with their victims.....

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