cj001f Posted August 10, 2006 Posted August 10, 2006 I would think they would make an exception for secretions. great, they'll ban me. unfrigging believable Quote
JayB Posted August 11, 2006 Author Posted August 11, 2006 I would think they would make an exception for secretions. great, they'll ban me. unfrigging believable These guys must not have read the NYT story about the monitoritoring of the wires passing through the SWIFT network. Hopefully they'll get a sweet settlement and a swift apology from Scotland Yard. "A number of events are understood to have convinced the counter-terrorist agencies to act. A telephone call about the alleged plot was intercepted, internet communication increased noticeably and two men under surveillance disappeared off the intelligence radar. However, security sources indicated that the key event — thought to be the transfer of funds — had taken place overseas. “It was very close, and it was too risky to allow the surveillance operation to go on for any longer,” one source said. These are the names of 19 suspects reportedly being held by the police after the foiled plot and whose assets the Treasury has sought to have frozen. Umir Hussain, 24, London E14 Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17 Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17 Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17 Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17 Cossor Ali, 24, London E17 Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17 Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17 Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17 Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10 Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17 Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5 Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest" Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 blah blah They should inspect for circumcised penises. Quote
JayB Posted August 11, 2006 Author Posted August 11, 2006 Trivialities like this are just the thing to stoke the flagging ennervation, eh? Kind of an LA-post-consumer-riff on the senescent English gentry's take on events across the channel in the mid-30's. "Oh yes darling - that - do pass the tea..." Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 blah blah They should inspect for circumcised penises. inspect those who refuse to pet a dog at the gate, and take a bite of little ham sandwiches. Quote
Mr_Phil Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Ha, ha, ha. I bet you believed in WMD as well. It's an election year, stupid! Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 I bet you believed in WMD as well JayB is hiding them in his Cambridge kitchen. profiling? singles males in their 20s-30s with poor employment histories Quote
JayB Posted August 11, 2006 Author Posted August 11, 2006 It's been interesting to watch a segment of the electorate on their journey from dissapointment, to cynicism, to paranoia, to delusion. Since you've uncovered the facts behind this election year shenanigan, Mr_Phil, I hope you'll be kind enough to share them with us. Take as much space as you need. Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 It's been interesting to watch a segment of the electorate on their journey from dissapointment, to cynicism, to paranoia, to delusion. the WMD are just around the corner JayB, really they are, Saddam had an active menancing weapons development program that could produce hundreds of devices, it just evaporated into thin air. Oh, and here's more of your hero "heck of a job Chertie" at work http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11863165/ fucking assbags - the herd of typing monkeys known as cc.com could do a better job Quote
JayB Posted August 11, 2006 Author Posted August 11, 2006 Tired retort. I don't think I've ever argued that anyone found WMD in Iraq. I did believe that there was a high probability that he had them before the invasion proved otherwise, and that, at a minimum, he'd actively pursue them once the flagging sanctions regime was either dropped alogether or became so porous as to be meaningless. I was wrong about the first, and we'll never know about the second. It's one thing to make a judgement before all of the facts are in, and quite another to refuse to accept them once they are known. Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 It's one thing to make a judgement before all of the facts are in, and quite another to refuse to accept them once they are known. And what would that be other than a "Tired retort" You realize each airport security shitfest Osama cackles with glee? He won this battle JayB ter·ror - n. - The ability to instill intense fear Quote
JayB Posted August 11, 2006 Author Posted August 11, 2006 Intense fear is one thing, appropriate precautions are another. Do you leave your life savings on the front porch, or keep them in a bank? If it's the latter, then clearly the criminals have succeeded in terrorizing you into a state of thoughtless fear. As far as the airport cluster goes, applying a rational screening methodology would go a long way towards addressing that. Let's remember that the primary reason for the megacluster is the fact that we've been forced to accept the polite fiction that every passenger is equally likely to use the plane as a vehicle for slaughter. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 I would think they would make an exception for secretions. great, they'll ban me. unfrigging believable These guys must not have read the NYT story about the monitoritoring of the wires passing through the SWIFT network. Hopefully they'll get a sweet settlement and a swift apology from Scotland Yard. "A number of events are understood to have convinced the counter-terrorist agencies to act. A telephone call about the alleged plot was intercepted, internet communication increased noticeably and two men under surveillance disappeared off the intelligence radar. However, security sources indicated that the key event — thought to be the transfer of funds — had taken place overseas. “It was very close, and it was too risky to allow the surveillance operation to go on for any longer,” one source said. These are the names of 19 suspects reportedly being held by the police after the foiled plot and whose assets the Treasury has sought to have frozen. Umir Hussain, 24, London E14 Muhammed Usman Saddique, 24, London E17 Waheed Zaman, 22, London E17 Assan Abdullah Khan, 22, London E17 Waseem Kayani, 28, High Wycombe Waheed Arafat Khan, 24, London E17 Cossor Ali, 24, London E17 Tayib Rauf, 21, Birmingham Ibrahim Savant, 26, London E17 Osman Adam Khatib, 20, London E17 Shamin Mohammed Uddin, 36, Stoke Newington Amin Asmin Tariq, 23, London E17 Shazad Khuram Ali, 27, High Wycombe Tanvir Hussain, 24, London E10 Umar Islam, 28, (born Brian Young) High Wycombe Assad Sarwar, 25, High Wycombe Abdullah Ali, 26, London E17 Abdul Muneem Patel, 17, London E5 Nabeel Hussain, 21, Waltham Forest" Based on the list of names, ages, etc, clearly there is no way we could apply rules for screening other than to include blue-haired old ladies, and mothers breast-feeding their children. Quote
foraker Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 It's a little too much to be asking a government bureaucracy headed by these goobers to come up with a rational solution to anything. It's not too much to ask that they (or anyone) don't use it for obvious political purposes. And it is pretty effing obvious.... Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Intense fear is one thing, appropriate precautions are another. Do you leave your life savings on the front porch, or keep them in a bank? If it's the latter, then clearly the criminals have succeeded in terrorizing you into a state of thoughtless fear. As far as the airport cluster goes, applying a rational screening methodology would go a long way towards addressing that. Let's remember that the primary reason for the megacluster is the fact that we've been forced to accept the polite fiction that every passenger is equally likely to use the plane as a vehicle for slaughter. yawn, same old bullshit. Al Qaeda did a test run of the same thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434 12 years ago there was supposed to have been ahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bojinka similar operation, but that was foiled. For some reason only now are ipods and water a massive threat, just when they need to stir up fears of "terrorism" in the backwoods redneck fucktards who are least at risk, but fear it most. As for you KK - ask the russians how well letting women escape screening works. Quote
JayB Posted August 11, 2006 Author Posted August 11, 2006 "For some reason only now are ipods and water a massive threat, just when they need to stir up fears of "terrorism" in the backwoods redneck fucktards who are least at risk, but fear it most." So - just for the record - you *literally* believe that this was a hoax undertaken by the British government at the behest of the Bush administration, in order to garner more Republican votes in November. Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 So - just for the record - you *literally* believe that this was a hoax undertaken by the British government at the behest of the Bush administration, in order to garner more Republican votes in November. I've never said nor implied it was a hoax. I find it very interesting that Al Qaeda used this modus operandi 12 years ago, but TSA has allowed their preferred smuggling method to go on free and clear until after the perpetrators of a similar plot have been arrested! The threat was probably very real, the TSA trained monkey carnival is pure political theater. Quote
catbirdseat Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Well, Carl, it was necessary as Mid Term elections are coming up and things haven't been looking so good for the Republicans. Can't lose that majority in Congress. Quote
foraker Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Hoax? No. Being used for political ends? Yes. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 As for you KK - ask the russians how well letting women escape screening works. ask them how they deal with terrorists once found, and how they inter their remains. Quote
cj001f Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 bleat ask them how they deal baaahhh with terrorists once found, bleat and how they inter their remains.baahhh well, these were spread over the steppe with their victims..... Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted August 11, 2006 Posted August 11, 2006 Is this the part where someone breaks in and says that Bushes dad killed JFK? Quote
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