tivoli_mike Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) article (June 15) -- Zhang Shiqiang, known as the Nine-Fingered Devil, first tasted justice at 13. His father caught him stealing and cut off one of Zhang's fingers. Twenty-five years later, in 2004, Zhang met retribution once more, after his conviction for double murder and rape. He was one of the first people put to death in China's new fleet of mobile execution chambers. The country that executed more than four times as many convicts as the rest of the world combined last year is slowly phasing out public executions by firing squad in favor of lethal injections. Unlike the United States and Singapore, the only two other countries where death is administered by injection, China metes out capital punishment from specially equipped "death vans" that shuttle from town to town. Makers of the death vans say the vehicles and injections are a civilized alternative to the firing squad, ending the life of the condemned more quickly, clinically and safely. The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen, who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van in which "Devil" Zhang took his final ride. State Secret For years, foreign human rights groups have accused China of arbitrary executions and cruelty in its use of capital punishment. The exact number of convicts put to death is a state secret. Amnesty International estimates there were at least 1,770 executions in China in 2005 - vs. 60 in the United States, but the group says on its website that the toll could be as high as 8,000 prisoners. The "majority are still by gunshot," says Liu Renwen, death penalty researcher at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a think tank in Beijing. "But the use of injections has grown in recent years, and may have reached 40%." China's critics contend that the transition from firing squads to injections in death vans facilitates an illegal trade in prisoners' organs. Injections leave the whole body intact and require participation of doctors. Organs can "be extracted in a speedier and more effective way than if the prisoner is shot," says Mark Allison, East Asia researcher at Amnesty International in Hong Kong. "We have gathered strong evidence suggesting the involvement of (Chinese) police, courts and hospitals in the organ trade." Executions in death vans are recorded on video and audio that is played live to local law enforcement authorities - a measure intended to ensure they are carried out legally. China's refusal to give outsiders access to the bodies of executed prisoners has added to suspicions about what happens afterward: Corpses are typically driven to a crematorium and burned before relatives or independent witnesses can view them. Chinese authorities are sensitive to allegations that they are complicit in the organ trade. In March, the Ministry of Health issued regulations explicitly banning the sale of organs and tightening approval standards for transplants. Even so, Amnesty International said in a report in April that huge profits from the sale of prisoners' organs might be part of why China refuses to consider doing away with the death penalty. "Given the high commercial value of organs, it is doubtful the new regulations will have an effect," Allison says. Edited June 15, 2006 by tivoli_mike Quote
olyclimber Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 sweet, but i'd lower it, put bling bling rimz on it, and a $50 grand stereo in it. Quote
tivoli_mike Posted June 15, 2006 Author Posted June 15, 2006 Further down in the article Sixty-eight different crimes — more than half non-violent offenses such as tax evasion and drug smuggling — are punishable by death in China. That means the death vans are likely to keep rolling. Quote
HappyCamper Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 "Sorry - is this the #58 bus to downto...." Quote
G-spotter Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Bet there isnt much window licking on those short busses. Quote
chirp Posted June 16, 2006 Posted June 16, 2006 You see something wrong with that Mike? I don't and think if we did the same we might have a little more justice in this fucking cuntry. Further down in the article Sixty-eight different crimes — more than half non-violent offenses such as tax evasion and drug smuggling — are punishable by death in China. That means the death vans are likely to keep rolling. Quote
chris Posted June 16, 2006 Posted June 16, 2006 You see something wrong with that Mike? I don't and think if we did the same we might have a little more justice in this fucking cuntry. Chirp, if anything this proves that the application of the death penalty DOES NOT reduce crime rates. Why is it that Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand have lower crime rates than the United States and China, but do not apply the death penalty? Quote
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lizard_brain Posted June 16, 2006 Posted June 16, 2006 (edited) Waddya mean short road trips! This looks like the ultimate travel bus. I want to get one and travel the country in it, state to state, doing freelance executions at state prisons along the way. That way I could declare all of my travel expenses like fuel, maintenance, meals, etc. as business expenses on my taxes. I spoke with a coworker here at the hospital, and he said we could go into business together, and we shouldn't waste money on those fancy drug "cocktails" they use on the inmates, when we could get a bottle of Chlorox for about two bucks and it would last forever. He said the only problem is that we'd spend most of our time in Texas. Edited June 16, 2006 by lizard_brain Quote
Fairweather Posted June 16, 2006 Posted June 16, 2006 You see something wrong with that Mike? I don't and think if we did the same we might have a little more justice in this fucking cuntry. This sentiment was my first reaction too, but when you see the link posted below you may reconsider..... WARNING!!! NOT KID OR FAMILY OR WORK SAFE.... http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=h...ficial%26sa%3DN There is one sentiment that liberals hold with which I wholeheartedly agree: Free Tibet Quote
foraker Posted June 17, 2006 Posted June 17, 2006 So you don't believe people should be allowed to lived their lives without interference from the government and that what government we do have shouldn't be influenced by either corporations or religious entities? Interesting.... Of course, most people I know that you would call 'liberals' sound like libertarians and sound nothing like Republicans. Quote
Fairweather Posted June 17, 2006 Posted June 17, 2006 So you don't believe people should be allowed to lived their lives without interference from the government and that what government we do have shouldn't be influenced by either corporations or religious entities? Interesting.... Of course, most people I know that you would call 'liberals' sound like libertarians and sound nothing like Republicans. I'm not sure how you arrive at any of those conclusions....or their relevance to my post. Quote
archenemy Posted June 17, 2006 Posted June 17, 2006 foraker, I don't think FW could be saying that a gov't shouldn't be influenced by religious entities; otherwise, he could not agree with the "Free Tibet" campaign. Not only that, but saying that the gov't shouldn't be influenced by religion would deny that the beliefs held by the writers of our own Constitution were infused throughout the documents that serve as the pillars of our political system. Quote
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