knotzen Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 So, I'm back at work, sitting in a windowless office, my whole day's work done on a computer--the life of the modern-day information/knowledge worker. Is this really a better way to provide housing, food, and clothing for myself? As opposed to a couple hundred years ago, when I would grow/raise my own food, perhaps sell some things I produce to others, or trade. Now, somebody pwns my ass, to the point of what time I can start work, eat lunch, etc. In a more subsistence lifestyle gettin' by is more risky, but you yourself are responsible for getting up every morning and doing the work it takes to survive. Consider the robin. Nobody tells a robin when to crap. They are their own GD bird, thankyouverymuch. The flip side is, they spend most of their life looking for food, and expend a lot of energy building a home in which to raise robinlets. Is the tradeoff worth it? The risk of personal responsibility/ability/sufficiency for freedom from control by another? Probably I wouldn't have the time or energy to go to the mountains if I were providing for myself. Putting in 40 hours a week does give a person a lot of freedom outside of work. Just wonderin'...UNCAGE MY SOUL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Frieh Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 You can't grow/raise/harvest ephedra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) I probably wouldn't need it--I would be getting more exercise in the course of providing for myself. Edited March 21, 2006 by knotzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 If you'd like there's plenty of openings in Nepali villages. You could grow your own millet, then carry it 2,000 vertical feet to the road so it can be threshed under the tires of passing busses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 It sounds like you need to find an employer that encourages flexible work hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foraker Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 OK, so "shut up and appreciate what you have." I get the message. There's just no pleasing some people (me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... However, I didn't have enough cash to go through the Starbucks drive-through this morning. Life can be so cruel.** ** ironic sarcasm Edited March 21, 2006 by knotzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... metaphorically those are all hazards of the corporate world. substitute emotional uncomfort for physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Well, at least you didn't step on a land mine today or get shot because you were from the 'wrong' clan or ethnic group..... metaphorically those are all hazards of the corporate world. substitute emotional uncomfort for physical. Exactly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Start your own Fight Club and all will be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackY Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Knotzen, You don't have do be a subsistence farmer to do something different. What's important to you? Bust out of the cube! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBRstreetgang Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 You could squat an abandoned lumbermill in 11worth & earn money for foos/gear by doing bavarian dances for tourist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 You could squat an abandoned lumbermill in 11worth & earn money for foos/gear by doing bavarian dances for tourist. Yo! I'm on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still_climbin Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Launch your own business. Its like the difference between top ropping and leading trad. And the loøse your ass exposure can be exhilarating. Edited March 21, 2006 by still_climbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 that's a good analogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 And the loose your ass exposure can be exhilarating Freudian slip, double entendre, or just another bad cc.com spellur? You decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underworld Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 "back in the day, when 5.9 was 5.9 we didn't have to spell corektly" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ireneo_Funes Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 if you free your mind, etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Launch your own business. Its like the difference between top ropping and leading trad. And the loose your ass exposure can be exhilarating. That's a good analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Knotzen, You don't have do be a subsistence farmer to do something different. What's important to you? Bust out of the cube! You're right, JackY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wessound Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 You could squat I've heard people will pay good money to see that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos_Chillin Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 So, I'm back at work, sitting in a windowless office, my whole day's work done on a computer--the life of the modern-day information/knowledge worker. Is this really a better way to provide housing, food, and clothing for myself? As opposed to a couple hundred years ago, when I would grow/raise my own food, perhaps sell some things I produce to others, or trade. Now, somebody pwns my ass, to the point of what time I can start work, eat lunch, etc. In a more subsistence lifestyle gettin' by is more risky, but you yourself are responsible for getting up every morning and doing the work it takes to survive. Consider the robin. Nobody tells a robin when to crap. They are their own GD bird, thankyouverymuch. The flip side is, they spend most of their life looking for food, and expend a lot of energy building a home in which to raise robinlets. Is the tradeoff worth it? The risk of personal responsibility/ability/sufficiency for freedom from control by another? Probably I wouldn't have the time or energy to go to the mountains if I were providing for myself. Putting in 40 hours a week does give a person a lot of freedom outside of work. Just wonderin'...UNCAGE MY SOUL! It is interesting to note that you chose robin in your analogy. Represents a need for family... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 It is interesting to note that you chose robin in your analogy. Represents a need for family... I was thinking a desire for young men in green tights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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