Weekend_Climberz Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Well the forcast looks pretty bitchin' and my buddy of course is spending the week in Whistler (bastard!!) through next week. Anyone want to head up to Litchenburg and see what the new snow ski's like on Saturday or Sunday?? Avy conditions permitting of course. Just thinking about a day trip right now, unless you can change my mind. Shoot me a PM or something. Quote
Double_E Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 I can go Sunday and/or Monday. let's talk. Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 There's a safe way up off the Smith Brook Road but it needs enough snow to fill in the trees. I would be stoked to check out another route depending on avi conditions. Saturday would be best 'cause that's when the big game is. Quote
mattp Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 How do you get from the Lichtenwasser to the summit safely in avalanche conditions? The way I've gone up from there certainly feels more secure than the west and south faces, but not totally safe. It is a scenic approach to the peak, though, and generally moderate in angle but there is about two hundred feet up the side of the ridge directly below the lake where I usually take the skis off and crawl because it is too steep to skin up in most snow conditions. Quote
JoshK Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 There's a safe way up off the Smith Brook Road but it needs enough snow to fill in the trees. I would be stoked to check out another route depending on avi conditions. Saturday would be best 'cause that's when the big game is. I would imagine snow cover in the trees is good now. I was over in Teanaway country yesterday and shit is well covered starting at like 2500 feet on that side. Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 You go up the SB road almost to the big turn under the rocky slope. You then have to find a way across the creek and head up to the lake. Then head for the top along the right hand side of the lake and then up the slope to your right. You hit the ridge and it's a safe cruse to the top. We never made it, the snow was waist deep in places. We watched some natural slides on the other side of the lake. Quote
Double_E Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 Well it turns out that W_C is gonna be a lazy this weekend and ride the lifts If anyone else wants to go B/C with me get in touch. Probably not Lichtenberg cuz of [probably] high avy danger. (??) Could go somewhere else tho... Quote
mattp Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 In periods of high avalanche danger, I don't think you'll safely make it all the way to the summit by that route but perhaps nearly so. I'd recommend heading into the woods after heading straight ahead at the big hairpin and then bearing left, to climb up to the Lake. Form there, staying right may keep you somewhat out of avalanche terrain but I remember there being a few terrain rolls that may be worriesome -- and then when you get to the summit itself you will either have to doggie crawl up an exposed and steep snowclimb on the right or cross beneath and climb over a large cornice on the left. Quote
Double_E Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 Thanks for the info Matt/Dave .... I'll keep it in mind for future, but it's starting to look like I might be going to the Crystal backcountry this weekend. Quote
Dr_Crash Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 I'm interested in doing something Saturday. Or I'll just go teach little pumpkins at Alpental. A workout would be preferred though. drC Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 11, 2006 Author Posted January 11, 2006 Well it turns out that W_C is gonna be a lazy this weekend and ride the lifts I'm still not quite sure yet. It's early in the week I suppose and my buddies sound like they may be flaking out to watch the playoffs. I'm also thinking that renting boots is about as much as a lift ticket anyway (actually less), so maybe it's going to be a B/C kind of weekend for me. Quote
Double_E Posted January 11, 2006 Posted January 11, 2006 so maybe it's going to be a B/C kind of weekend for me. Cool. Sunday perhaps?? Got one other friend who's sorta tentative but if anything would go Sunday. Another one definitely can go but only on Monday. I'd prefer Sunday though. So lemme know soon if that works for ya, bro... Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 11, 2006 Author Posted January 11, 2006 I was going to plan on heading up on Saturday when the game is going on, but I guess it depends on if Schuldzy wants to go out. Unfortunately, I work on MLK day (should of worked for a bank). Quote
ScottP Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 In periods of high avalanche danger, I don't think you'll safely make it all the way to the summit by that route but perhaps nearly so. I'd recommend heading into the woods after heading straight ahead at the big hairpin and then bearing left, to climb up to the Lake. Form there, staying right may keep you somewhat out of avalanche terrain but I remember there being a few terrain rolls that may be worriesome -- and then when you get to the summit itself you will either have to doggie crawl up an exposed and steep snowclimb on the right or cross beneath and climb over a large cornice on the left. Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Nice stoke! Sunday looks like the best weather, but they keep changing the forcast. Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 Ohhhh! I need to change my shorts now. Quote
Doug_Hutchinson Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Now for the dumb question from the Oregon guy - which side of Lichtenberg are you guys aiming to ski? It was love at first site when I saw the south face for the first time and assumed the fastest way out is Nason Creek. Do you go in and out the Smith Brook Road way if shooting for the south side? Is the skiing good between the summit and the lake (east/southeast?)? Also, I will be up there 1/20-22 so if it is stable and anyone wants to ski it, let me know. Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 I think Dave is talking about heading into the woods and across the creek on the first hairpin turn at about 3800'. Might be able to get a car up to there, but who knows right now. You'll want to stay north of the Lichtenwasser Lake outlet stream. Once you get to the lake I imagine you can follow the ridge to the top with fairly limited exposure to avy danger, depending on those cornices in the picture from ScottP. ScottP: I'm assuming that picture is taken from the knoll to the NE of the summit (aproximately by the dark cross on the topo). Quote
Dave_Schuldt Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 SB road will be covered in snow. The trick will be crossing the creek. If we can't there's we can get some runs in the trees on Union Peak Quote
mattp Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 I don't think you'll have too much trouble crossing the creek, Dave. It isn't that big. By the way, if you are aiming for the summit via Dave's proposed route up from Lichterwasser, you might want to bring along an ice axe for the doggie crawl finish. The steep climbing is short, but it is exposed. If you reach the main crest off to the left somewhere, you can skin it right to the summit. Quote
JoshK Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 That's a beautiful looking ski-off summit, that's for sure. Great pic! Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 Thanks for the information. Hey Dave and Double_E, I'm gonna bring an ice axe and give a go for the top. No need for a rope by the looks of that picture. Quote
mattp Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 No, you won't need a rope. You won't really need the axe either, but if you do elect to complete the snowclimb finish it will be comforting. I bet the entire crest between the summit and the knob to the southeast will have a cornice or pseudo-cornice on it right now, so the doggie crawl may well turn out to be the way to go. If you don't have an axe, turn your skis over and use the bindings for traction claws. Quote
Weekend_Climberz Posted January 12, 2006 Author Posted January 12, 2006 If you don't have an axe, turn your skis over and use the bindings for traction claws. I'll make sure to freshen up on my lashing. Quote
Double_E Posted January 12, 2006 Posted January 12, 2006 Hey Dave and Double_E, I'm gonna bring an ice axe and give a go for the top. No need for a rope by the looks of that picture. Do one of you guys have an extra icetool I could borrow? I only have a glacier axe. Or maybe I'll use the ski binding traction technique. Quote
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