RuMR Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 That company needs to get bought out by one that is managed better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 not doing a general recall on pieces that they KNOW are whacked is total BULLSHIT! This is assuming that this is true, of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 so it sounds like the hole for the axle is in the wrong spot? Problem one: Regular: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hard to tell from those pics, but I would guess that if the axel is located even slightly off, it would impact the geometry of the lobes (where they engage at, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 You can tell from the picture that the correct location of the axel hole is up and to the left of where it was placed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Listen, folks: Climbing has ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT YOUR OWN RISK AND GEAR FAILURES DO OCCUR ON BOTH PARTS. This isn't an SUV, it's a cam. The manufacturers have disclaimers that are bulletproof. It's great they are replacing the cam, but gear inspection is ALWAYS you responsibility. Glad you caught the defect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCash Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 So by that account, maybe I'll start my own cam company and turn out a whole bunch of defective cams that will break in half or something when people fall on them. If people complain about it, I will tell them I'm not recalling them and they should have just inspected them a little closer. Your argument has ZERO merit. CCH should be ashamed of themselves for not notifying the public of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Dood, to even get a cam on the market, your theory falls apart. Climbers aren't stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Aliens suck anyways ZeroCams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek_the_Greek Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Climbing has ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT YOUR OWN RISK AND GEAR FAILURES DO OCCUR ON BOTH PARTS Buuullshit. Failures of properly used gear are pretty much unheard-of today. "Cut" ropes mean the sheath ripped, not that the rope sliced in two; broken 'biners always end up being cross-loaded or have their gates open; when gear pulls out it's almost always because the rock crumbled, not because the piece broke (exceptions are limited to tiny pieces rated for aid only). Ok, once in a long while a bad batch gets out of the factory and gets recalled, but instances of injuries from this stuff failing are so rare as to not be an issue. Risk assessment sure is important, but failure of your gear (properly used, in decent shape) is the last safety element you have to worry about. If CCH has released a bunk product, they should get their thumbs out of their asses and get it properly recalled. In this case it sounds like the flaw is obvious, but hopefully no one will find out about it as they fidget at the crux after a long runout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 I'm just trolling. Obviously, it was a rare manufacturers mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 I'm just a hairy-backed old goat fokkin' troll. Obviously, i'm a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 g'mornin' to ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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