Peter_Puget Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 From the AP: Wilson acknowledged his wife was no longer in an undercover job at the time Novak's column first identified her. "My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity," he said. Quote
faster_than_you Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 Hey PP, you are aware that there is a conservative spin machine... Quote
Dechristo Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 I heard she hadn't been undercover for over five years when firstNovak mentioned her and that her relatives and neighbors had had conversations with her about her work at the CIA; there was no "outing". The whole bidness is starting to sound mighty contrived. Quote
assmonkey Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Game over as in there is no confidence in our current administration and D's will be swept into office during the mid-terms? Sweet! "...in a sign of continuing polarization, more than two-in-five voters (42%) say they would favor impeachment proceedings if it is found the President misled the nation about his reasons for going to war with Iraq." From: http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1007 Quote
foraker Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 If we had "Slick Willy", can we have "K-Y Karl"??? Quote
faster_than_you Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Game over as in there is no confidence in our current administration and D's will be swept into office during the mid-terms? Sweet! "...in a sign of continuing polarization, more than two-in-five voters (42%) say they would favor impeachment proceedings if it is found the President misled the nation about his reasons for going to war with Iraq." This will never happen. The D's are terribly disorganized... I mean come on, Howard Dean and Hilary Clinton... Quote
Dechristo Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 It's hard to believe any fucking thing one hears from any source. people tell me believe half of what you see and son none of what you hear... "Heard It Through the Grapevine Quote
foraker Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Seriously, they shouldn't have had any trouble beating Bush and yet they put up Kerry as a candidate. I knew they'd lost then. Quote
bunglehead Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Kerry: He couldn't have been more wooden. And long winded. Quote
Dechristo Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 He couldn't have been more wooden. And long winded. A Kerry/Gore clone? Quote
bunglehead Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 That's depressing, but they were very much alike. Quote
cj001f Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 I heard she hadn't been undercover for over five years when firstNovak mentioned her and that her relatives and neighbors had had conversations with her about her work at the CIA; there was no "outing". The whole bidness is starting to sound mighty contrived. There's a big difference between your neighbors knowing you work for the CIA and the whole world knowing. If it is not public knowledge, you still have the potential to be an agent. Once a sources identity is made public they cease to have any covert intelligance generating ability. I believe the Bush administration regularly uses this line to protect their sources of Iraq information. But then, this only proves people hear what they want to hear. PP's the pocket revolutionary proves it with every shat post, Dechristo only hears so he can wax some strained verbiage to salve his inflamed ego. Quote
faster_than_you Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Kerry wasn't nearly as wooden at Gore. Actually, Kerry would have been a good president, at least he could pull together a complete sentence... But somehow, middle America just didn't dig the guy... The D's need a modern day Scoop Jackson. Quote
Dechristo Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 There's a big difference between your neighbors knowing you work for the CIA and the whole world knowing. If it is not public knowledge, you still have the potential to be an agent. Once a sources identity is made public they cease to have any covert intelligance generating ability. It doesn't sound very professional, wise, or convincing for an agent with aspirations or expectations of working covertly to be talking to her neighbors about her work with the CIA... seems a bit too public at that. "But then, this only proves people hear what they want to hear." ...Dechristo only hears so he can wax some strained verbiage to salve his inflamed ego.That's Mr. inflamed ego, sir! Quote
cj001f Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 It doesn't sound very professional, wise, or convincing for an agent with aspirations or expectations of working covertly to be talking to her neighbors about her work with the CIA... seems a bit too public at that. "But then, this only proves people hear what they want to hear." Ever had a neighbor who worked for the CIA, or any other security clearance requiring job? It was common practice in the 80's for the FBI to interview all the neighbors for dirt. Not hard to figure out if your neighbor was a spook. And if you lived in the DC area you'd also know whatever "cover" companies they'd adopted for work experience. Or you could figure out when they complain about the accident at the Langley exit (yes, it has it's own exit) that they work for the CIA. For someone doing covert intelligance work in Africa if her fucking neighbors in Mclean know it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. To have a syndicated columnist print her name does. But I'm sure you knew that, and it was already figured into your opinion. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted July 16, 2005 Author Posted July 16, 2005 Hey PP, you are aware that there is a conservative spin machine... Yep! That's why I avoid biased press sources! Quote
cj001f Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Yep! That's why I avoid biased press sources! Instead you prefer the accurate insight of the blogosphere? Quote
Dechristo Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 ...But I'm sure you knew that, and it was already figured into your opinion. Even the Great Karnac couldn't divine the next contrived rationale you're gonna come up with. Quote
cj001f Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Why don't you go inject yourself into a funeral thread bucko? As always, your skills at condescending dimissals of those with opposite views amazes. Such dismissal, consisting solely of snide sentances lacking any substantive thought show the intellectual character lurking beneath the veneer of bad verbiage. Quote
faster_than_you Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Finding the source of Plame's leak is like finding "The Nodder." Quote
Fairweather Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Why don't you go inject yourself into a funeral thread bucko? As always, your skills at condescending dimissals of those with opposite views consisting solely of snide sentances lacking any substance show the intellectual character beneath the veneer of bad verbiage. Um...that's, "sentences" Cj. ...and a bit run-on, as well. BTW, I, too, work for the CIA and am on a very important assignment at this very moment. If anyone here tries to out me, I WILL prosecute. Quote
j_b Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Game over i seriously doubt it. the agency said a crime was committed which clearly invalidates your spin. anyhow, since when do you expect us to believe the GOP talking points if you don't provide a link to the evidence for your assertions? what did he say really: "she was not one that day .... because she was on a 2 week vacation" Quote
Fairweather Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 We all know the deep concern those on your side of the political fence have for our foreign operatives as they carry on with the work of our nation in dark and dangerous places, j_b. Quote
j_b Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 well, since these are supposedly your values, why don't you be consistent and call for rove's head? hypocrite. Quote
Squid Posted July 16, 2005 Posted July 16, 2005 Sincerely, fuck you Fairweather for implying that we liberals are less patriotic than your sanctimonious self. Fuck you. I can stand the rest of your obnoxious opinions, but that one better change. Quote
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