Peter_Puget Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 (edited) http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/atv.shtml My scratch calculation shows a bit more than 200mpg BUT I will repeat I was speaking of 500mpg of gasoline not of the fuel utilized. In addition I am not advocating those numbers. Numbers like this have been thrown around but pro-subsidy groups all over the place. link Face if we are going nuclear that much was obvious years ago when the anti – nuke movement was more popular. Anyone have any idea on what the fastest growing city is in Canada? Edited April 1, 2005 by Peter_Puget Quote
Peter_Puget Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Old news Dru get something more current.. by the way I am talkin' Fort McMurray Calgary is so yesterday! Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Doubtful. Fort McMurray hasn't been booming for years. Hell even Surrey grows faster than the Fort. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Dru - Look at the Grand P website they claim to be the second fastest growing city right before FM. Of course they were using data as of 2001. Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 The municipal claim to be the "second fastest growing city" is about as realistic as the Squamish municipal claim that the Chief is the world's "second largest granite monolith" Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Notice how they don't provide a link to the data. Also they don't mention whether the claim is total growth, per capita growth or whatever, and if it is for all Canadian population centres or just for their size range. In short, figures don't lie but liars can figure. The claim is meaningless. Quote
DirtyHarry Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 The municipal claim to be the "second fastest growing city" is about as realistic as the Squamish municipal claim that the Chief is the world's "second largest granite monolith" Good point. But when you claim to be the biggest Canadian sprayer, we believe that to be true. Quote
Bogen Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 I've been to GP lately. I don't doubt the claim. Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 But - total or percent? And overall or in its size range? Put simply - a "city" of 10,000 that adds 1,000 people will be fast growing ( a 10% increase). But a "city" of 100 that adds 20 people would have a 20% increase, and a city 0f 2,000,000 that adds 5,000 would have a 500% higher absolute growth. So without defining growth further the claims to be fastest growing are meaningless. Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 For instance: Human activity and the environment: Annual statistics 2003 Over the past 30 years, the population of British Columbia's Okanagan-Similkameen river basin has more than doubled, the fastest growth rate among the 23 major river basins in Canada. However, this scenic region in the British Columbia interior also has one of Canada's lowest renewable supplies of fresh water. The Okanagan-Similkameen basin has only 0.1% of the country's renewable supply of fresh water. In comparison, the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence basin has 6.8% of the renewable supply of fresh water, the Pacific Coastal basin has 15.8%, and the Northern Quebec basin has 16.0%. From 1971 to 2001, the population of the Okanagan-Similkameen basin increased 137% to 285,145. The impact of this strong growth in population can also be examined on the basis of two other indicators: the number of people for every square kilometer of land, and the number for every square km of surface water. In 2001, the Okanagan-Similkameen river basin ranked first in Canada in terms of the number of people for each square km of surface water, and second only to the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence river basin in terms of population density for every square km of land. The Okanagan-Similkameen river basin had nearly 439 people for every square km of surface water. This was well ahead of its closest rival, the South Saskatchewan River basin, which had almost 284 people for every square km. British Columbia's Fraser River valley was a close third, with 224. The Great Lakes-St. Lawrence basin, the most populated basin in Canada, had only 131 people for every square km of water. In terms of land, an average of just over 30 people lived in every square km of land in the Great Lakes-St. Lawrence river basin in 2001, the highest ratio in Canada. The Okanagan-Similkameen river basin was in second place with about 18 people for every square km of land. The study "Fresh water resources in Canada" is published in the 2003 edition of Human activity and the environment: Annual statistics, Statistics Canada's latest compilation of annual environmental statistics. It is a portrait of the nation's environment with emphasis on human activity and its impacts. Quote
swaterfall Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Good point. But when you claim to be the biggest Canadian sprayer, we believe that to be true. We believe it to be true regardless of if you're talking about spraying for individual population centres, spray from all population centres, per capita spray, spray growth per capita or just total spray. Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Only biggest Canadian sprayer on cc.com I've only ever posted twice on rockclimbing.com It makes me feel dur-T Quote
Squid Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 I've heard rumours of some new hot-shot spray-wunderkind from some farm in Alberta. Apparently he lives so far out in the sticks, he doesn't have internet access. Instead, he's rigged this spray-simulator onto his ancient 386 where the computer is constantly tossing him randomly generated insults and put-downs, a la Eliza. He locks himself into the barn, sparring mano-a-mano with this machine for marathon sessions, honing himself into a beast, a ruthless killer with an instinct for the jugular. 'Bout once a month, the family heads into town to pick up supplies, and for 3-4 hours at a time, the kid heads to the library and unleashes hell all over unsuspecting bb's. Some people suspect him in a string of suicides in California last summer- apparently someone had insinuated himself into a weight-loss bulletin-board, and then proceeded to methodically disassemble the egos of everyone online. Most of the online regulars took their own lives within a period of 2-3 days. Authorities suspect the Alberta kid, but of course no one can pin anything on him. He's slippery. Anyway, I'm just warning ya, Dru. No matter how fast you are on the draw, there's some kid on a farm somewhere who's gonna come gunning for you someday. Live by the spray, die by the spray. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 Your Car: Politics on Wheels By JOHN TIERNEY IT has always been tempting to ......Democrats tend to be younger, less affluent and more likely to live in cities where small cars are easier to park......"Democrats buy cars," he said. "Republicans buy trucks." When I was a child I...... Quote
Dru Posted April 1, 2005 Posted April 1, 2005 I've heard rumours of some new hot-shot spray-wunderkind from some farm in Alberta. Apparently he lives so far out in the sticks, he doesn't have internet access. Instead, he's rigged this spray-simulator onto his ancient 386 where the computer is constantly tossing him randomly generated insults and put-downs, a la Eliza. He locks himself into the barn, sparring mano-a-mano with this machine for marathon sessions, honing himself into a beast, a ruthless killer with an instinct for the jugular. 'Bout once a month, the family heads into town to pick up supplies, and for 3-4 hours at a time, the kid heads to the library and unleashes hell all over unsuspecting bb's. Some people suspect him in a string of suicides in California last summer- apparently someone had insinuated himself into a weight-loss bulletin-board, and then proceeded to methodically disassemble the egos of everyone online. Most of the online regulars took their own lives within a period of 2-3 days. Authorities suspect the Alberta kid, but of course no one can pin anything on him. He's slippery. Anyway, I'm just warning ya, Dru. No matter how fast you are on the draw, there's some kid on a farm somewhere who's gonna come gunning for you someday. Live by the spray, die by the spray. When you are the best, you have only two options. 1) Start to decline 2) Transcend yourself and become even better. To retire undefeated may be an option but only if you care about your status more than our sport. If you are in it for the love of the game you will keep playing long after you are no longer the best - just look at Beckey. Quote
cj001f Posted April 2, 2005 Posted April 2, 2005 from the boutique revolutionary set. I have no patience for them, but the similarities between the republican elite in the US and the Latin American oligarchs are amusing. Quote
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