Tony Blair.......

[Dave_Schuldt]

...is in deep shit. The Labour party lost big in elections last week. The results have been seen as a protest of Britan's Iraq policy. Bush should be nervous.

[MollyWorld]

Why should Bush be nervous? Even with the war being a major issue here, he's still neck and neck with Kerry.

[Double_E]

yeah Dave I don't think that in particular says much about Bush's situation. overall the UK populace have always supported the war in Iraq a LOT less than the American public.

 

still tho, things ARE lookin' pretty bleak for Bush, overall. I think the sucker'll be out of the White House come January.

[Dave_Schuldt]

If the oposition gets its shit together and pulls off a no confadence vote Blair wouuld be history. The loss of British support would be a big blow.

[Double_E]

again, I beg to differ D_S. I don't think the American public overall gives one rat's ass as to how the UK public feel about the war in Iraq.... or for that matter give a rat's ass for much of anything that happens outside the US.

[AlpineK]

I think 3/4s of Americans don't even know where England is.

[Dru]

I think 3/4s of Americans don't even know where England is.

 

they know where Lynndie England is though

[JoshK]

It's true...basic geography has got to be the easiest thing to learn...it's esentially shape recognition...and our "public" can't manage to do it.

[cracked]

Good thing you're soooooo superior to the average American.

[cj001f]

Good thing you're soooooo superior to the average American.

Someone managed to get in the 90th percantile without understanding what that means

[cracked]

What the hell is a

percantile

?

[JoshK]

Good thing you're soooooo superior to the average American.

 

cause I know where Iraq is as opposed to 50% of the populace? If that makes me elite and superior, I suppose so...

[cracked]

Back up your claims. How do you know that 50% of the population doesn't know where Iraq is?

 

For the record, I'm only using the because Josh is. Josh is to as Scott is to .

[scott_harpell]

that is because it is a conservative howdy

 

and a liberal 'everyone is out to get me and i ain't fallin' for it'

[Dru]

Ex-diplomats, retired military brass call for Bush ouster

 

WASHINGTON (AP) - Angered by his administration policies they contend endanger national security, 26 retired U.S. diplomats and military officers are urging Americans to vote U.S. President George W. Bush out of office in November.

 

The group, which calls itself Diplomats and Military Commanders for Change, does not explicitly endorse Democrat John Kerry for president in its campaign, which will start officially Wednesday at a Washington news conference.

 

Among the group are 20 ambassadors, appointed by both Democratic and Republican presidents, other former U.S. State Department officials and military leaders whose careers span three decades.

 

Prominent members include retired marine Gen. Joseph Hoar, commander of U.S. forces in the Middle East during the administration of Bush's father; retired Adm. William Crowe, ambassador to Britain under former president Bill Clinton and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under former president Ronald Reagan; and Jack Matlock, a member of the National Security Council under Reagan and ambassador to the Soviet Union from 1987 to 1991.

 

The White House referred calls for comment to the Bush-Cheney campaign. Campaign spokesmen were not immediately available.

 

 

"We agreed that we had just lost confidence in the ability of the Bush administration to advocate for American interests or to provide the kind of leadership that we think is essential," said William Harrop, former president Bush's ambassador to Israel, and earlier to four African countries.

 

"The group does not endorse Kerry, although it more or less goes without saying in the statement," said Harrop.

 

Harrop said he listed himself as an independent for years for career purposes but usually has voted Republican.

 

The former ambassador said diplomats and military officials normally avoid making political statements, especially in an election year.

 

"Some of us are not that comfortable with it, but we just feel very strongly that the country needs new leadership," Harrop said.

 

He said the group was disillusioned by Bush's handling of the war in Iraq and a list of other subjects, including the Middle East, environmental conservation, AIDS policy, ethnic and religious conflict and weapons proliferation

[Skeezix]

I agree that Americans probably don't care what the Brits think. I take some comfort that folks on the continent oppose the war since I share that viewpoint. But Blair hitched his wagon to Bush's and that will be Blair's downfall. I'm a little nervous about predicting Bush's fall in November. Martlet (in his(her) various incarnations), Harpell, Fairweather, and company have been conspicuously quiet as far as prognosticating re the outcome of the election as well I've noticed, launching rather pathetic attacks(Martlet) on Kerry instead , which I take as nervousness. Maybe even lack of confidence. So I remain cautiously optomistic that Bush is going to be voted out. And won't that be a happy day. Time out for a euphoric reverie, imagining the day after election day with Bush going down in flames.

[Skeezix]

Things are looking grim for Paul Martin too. Something about millions of dollars in Canadian taxpayers' money going unaccounted for on his watch. (Equivalent of $120 US)