ashw_justin Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Yeah like little flecks of climber giz! whoops did I say that out loud? Quote
Dru Posted June 11, 2004 Author Posted June 11, 2004 yeah its just like smify except the only pro on the 12 b/c route up until the crack he has his fingers in, is the slung horn  all the visual impact of spr0t climbing without the bolt trail whatever would pope say??? Quote
pope Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 yeah its just like smify except the only pro on the 12 b/c route up until the crack he has his fingers in, is the slung horn  all the visual impact of spr0t climbing without the bolt trail whatever would pope say???   Even with the chalk trail, this is a manly climb. When he’s finished, he’ll leave the climb nearly in the condition he found it. Pope would say that the visual impact is ephemeral. A couple of good squalls will restore the route. BFD. I don’t have a problem with chalk, although if this climb were located in an area frequented by bird watchers and tree huggers, I would either leave it alone or perhaps I’d use a tinted chalk that matches the rock.  You can berate the guy for being a hypocrite or whatever, but the fact remains that this is a climb requiring enormous balls. You aren’t going to be able to hang off some stupid-assed bolt while you mime the next two moves to a chorus of unsolicited beta from the clowns below. Bolts, unlike chalk, leave a permanent trail that facilitates cowardly ascents. Quote
pope Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Don't tell me a dusting of chalk on the rock is somehow aesthetically equivalent to b_lts: Â Quote
EWolfe Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Clip 'em? Â Or eat 'em? Â Tough decisions... Â Quote
lancegranite Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Why is it that I have to almost die in order for a climb to be considered to be "pure"? Quote
pope Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Why is it that I have to almost die in order for a climb to be considered to be "pure"? Â Don't concern yourself with being "pure". Mediocre climbers...or those of us who wish to experience the technical challenges without taunting death can put on a toprope and imagine what leading it would be like. Quote
RuMR Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 here we go again.... Â Â Â pope, you must not be gettin' any Quote
EWolfe Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Why is it that I have to almost die in order for a climb to be considered to be "pure"? Â Don't concern yourself with being "pure". Mediocre climbers...or those of us who wish to experience the technical challenges without taunting death can put on a toprope and imagine what leading it would be like. Â Show me how to lead a clean arete without bolts, and I may start listening. Â Quote
pope Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Show me how to lead a clean arete without bolts, and I may start listening. Â Â Try it like this: Â Quote
pope Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 pope, you must not be gettin' any  Inductive reasoning.... based on your own situation? Quote
RuMR Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 here's my reasoning... Â you constantly are using terms like "manly" way of climbing...hence, i can only induce that living a "manly" way is something you are striving for...its become your mantra, so to speak...something that you need to work on...something that you have issues with...you know, kinda like Ford's motto that "quality is job 1", when everyone knows that they make pieces of shit that fall apart in less than 120k miles...so they are trying to convince everyone that their product has quality... Quote
Lambone Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 looks more like a highball boulder problem to me...what's up with the rope? Â Would this guy climb the Peabody boulders toting a rope and slinging horns....weak. Quote
cracked Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 Rock climbing ethics debates are . I'll stick to the mtns, thanks. Quote
Distel32 Posted June 14, 2004 Posted June 14, 2004 bwahahahahahzhaha  cracked gives in after years of arguing about rock climbing ethics. Quote
Dru Posted June 14, 2004 Author Posted June 14, 2004 looks more like a highball boulder problem to me...what's up with the rope? Would this guy climb the Peabody boulders toting a rope and slinging horns....weak.  have you noticed the landing  Quote
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Posted June 15, 2004 here's my reasoning... you constantly are using terms like "manly" way of climbing...hence, i can only induce that living a "manly" way is something you are striving for. Another explanation is that when an example of manly climbing sits squarely on their monitors, participants in this thread display difficulty recognizing it as such (somebody needs to point this out to them).  ...something that you need to work on...something that you have issues with...Get a second opinion (from your sister ).  ....you know, kinda like Ford's motto that "quality is job 1", when everyone knows that they make pieces of shit that fall apart in less than 120k miles...so they are trying to convince everyone that their product has quality... Hey pinko, if you love the way they do things on the other side of the ocean, why don't you just move? Quote
scott_harpell Posted June 15, 2004 Posted June 15, 2004 Back up on the FORD's hommes. My rig'll tear your Lesburu in 1/2 Quote
pope Posted June 15, 2004 Posted June 15, 2004 Back up on the FORD's hommes. My rig'll tear your Lesburu in 1/2 Quote
RuMR Posted June 15, 2004 Posted June 15, 2004 Back up on the FORD's hommes. My rig'll tear your Lesburu in 1/2 Â FixOrRepairDaily Quote
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