cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglehead Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Â clipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 May an icicle fall on GregW's and your head! TUBBY! I'm sorry you can't ski, Rudy. I know it makes you inferior, but I try not to rub it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 May an icicle fall on GregW's and your head! TUBBY! I'm sorry you can't ski, Rudy. I know it makes you inferior, but I try not to rub it in. HA! I was talking about you ice climbing! But since you brought up skiing, do the attendents let another person on the lift when yo fatty arse gets on??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted February 20, 2004 Author Share Posted February 20, 2004 May an icicle fall on GregW's and your head! TUBBY! I'm sorry you can't ski, Rudy. I know it makes you inferior, but I try not to rub it in. HA! I was talking about you ice climbing! But since you brought up skiing, do the attendents let another person on the lift when yo fatty arse gets on??? lets not talk about fat asses here my ass is NOT fat just well AMPLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Do you ask your wife to carry your pack for you, or do you have a llama? Â You might climb harder than me, but in a brawl I'll be better off! Â Besides, plenty of alpine hardmen are big guys. Think Blanchard, Backes, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 All this spray in TNRCF. When Petey gets back it'll be hell to pay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 prolly right there ...but i'm hella fast at runnin'!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 'less the wind catches you and blows you right back to where you came from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 You might climb harder than me, but in a brawl I'll be better off! Â B.S. I would place my bets on the 13 climber over the guy who cant get up libra crack anyday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 ha! Â i suck at brawling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 ha! Â i suck at brawling... Â No reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_harpell Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 I think my arms are as long as rudy is tall. I am 6'2 with a 5" or so ape index... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 holy $hit! You got calluses on your knuckles????  Hey that reminds me of a joke i heard about tall vs. short climbers  Tall climbers don't climb they just reach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 I think my arms are as long as rudy is tall. I am 6'2 with a 5" or so ape index... Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Â Besides, plenty of alpine hardmen are big guys. Think Blanchard, Backes, etc. Â Barry Blanchard is not a big guy. He is short and wiry. poor you. Â I still dont know how CBS thinks you can't back clip a Frog??? WTF? News flash the frog part goes on the bolt and the biner part goes on your rope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMR Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Â I still dont know how CBS thinks you can't back clip a Frog??? WTF? News flash the frog part goes on the bolt and the biner part goes on your rope. Â ahhhh you dumbass...why did you let the cat out of the bag???? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erden Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Muffy: one thing to add to the above suggestions - I have all my runners set up such that the biners face the same way. So if you held one biner on its spine on the table at home, the other biner as well should be on its spine - not on its gate. Â Then take these to the cliff and apply all the above advice. Try to picture this: If you are climbing at a sideways angle, you would want to clip the bolts from the side toward which you are rising. If you are climbing up and toward the right, you would clip from the right, the gates would face the left. You would clip the rope to the bottom biner left to right, from the rock and out. So if you layed the rope on the runner after you clipped the bottom biner, your rope would be on top of the runner, covering the webbing, and the top biner. Â As you advance and pull the rope, the runners below will rotate and the biner on teh bolt will have its gate down and away from the bolt. The biner on the rope will have its spine against the rock, not risking the inadvertent nudge on the gate from the rock. Â That's how I create consistency in my system... Â Does this help? Â Erden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucK Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 Z-clipping is way worse than back-clipping, especially for someone who's pro is just there for a back-up and is not planning on falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted February 22, 2004 Author Share Posted February 22, 2004 Muffy: one thing to add to the above suggestions - I have all my runners set up such that the biners face the same way. So if you held one biner on its spine on the table at home, the other biner as well should be on its spine - not on its gate. Then take these to the cliff and apply all the above advice. Try to picture this: If you are climbing at a sideways angle, you would want to clip the bolts from the side toward which you are rising. If you are climbing up and toward the right, you would clip from the right, the gates would face the left. You would clip the rope to the bottom biner left to right, from the rock and out. So if you layed the rope on the runner after you clipped the bottom biner, your rope would be on top of the runner, covering the webbing, and the top biner.  As you advance and pull the rope, the runners below will rotate and the biner on teh bolt will have its gate down and away from the bolt. The biner on the rope will have its spine against the rock, not risking the inadvertent nudge on the gate from the rock.  That's how I create consistency in my system...  Does this help?  Erden. actualy YES that does help. thank you for the mentle image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daler Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 Â Besides, plenty of alpine hardmen are big guys. Think Blanchard, Backes, etc. Â Barry Blanchard is not a big guy. He is short and wiry. poor you. Â I still dont know how CBS thinks you can't back clip a Frog??? WTF? News flash the frog part goes on the bolt and the biner part goes on your rope. Â Â WTF!!!!! Backclipping has nothing to do with the proside carabiner it has all to do with the rope side. So, yes you can back clip anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 (edited) I still dont know how CBS thinks you can't back clip a Frog??? WTF? News flash the frog part goes on the bolt and the biner part goes on your rope. I know that. Where did I say you couldn't back clip it? Biners can come unclipped from bolts as well as the rope from the biner. It has happened. The Frog is equivalent to a locking biner on the bolt hanger. Sling unclipping from biner. Edited February 23, 2004 by catbirdseat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 the discussion was about back clipping. rope unclipping from bolt is a whole nother topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk Posted March 1, 2004 Author Share Posted March 1, 2004 I lead a tiny bit this weekend. I did fine. I am starting to think it was an issue of being in the gym, and the clips being too close and it being noisey etc. I still need to work on my boldness as i think I can lead harder than I am now, but I had a good confidence building weekend. thanks for all the help and Dru thanks for all the beta about koala, climbing up there was just what I needed. It was quiet and beautiful and fun!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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