specialed Posted April 16, 2002 Posted April 16, 2002 quote: Originally posted by fern: Lynn Hill may be a better climber but I have a bigger rack Lynn Hill may be a better climber than me too but I have a penis. Quote
max Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 quote: Originally posted: How can anyone possibly claim one person is the "best rock climber in the world," [?] Ever hear of the Well Ordered Set Theorem? Â First, lets address the issue of regarding someone as "bad-ass" and the whole mis-conception of "who cares what other people are doing and who's a climbing great." There are many people on this board that have expounded on the achievements of our own fred becky and all those canadian hard-types that have done awesome things. There are people on this board who have themselves been at the leading edge of cascades climbing, if not climbing in general. I'd say most people here look to these people and say, "wow! they're climbing hard shit! They're doing cool stuff." We may not go as far as "I wish I could do that/be that hard/be that effortlessly cool", but I'd bet many of us use these people as ... (oh my God!) role models! (I know it's scandalous to suggest the beer drinking, womanizing, "I-climb-hung-over-cause-I-don't-give-a-piss-what-you-think", raucous band of "locals' on this board are interested in what's going on outside of the "Mighty Cascades") Anyways, this "community" has it's leaders and high achievers, and most people are in some way influenced by them. The point is: everybody has people they look up to. And I say great! Role models are valuable in continuing development. Â So why Lynn hill? I think Lynn hill's best attribute is the style in which she climbs. OK, I'll admit I don't keep 24-7 watch of her accomplishments or even her style, but from the sample I have of he rstyle compared to the sample I have of the greater climbing communities style, she kicks ass! She consistently climbs hard shit, trad and sport, and from what I've heard from her, she's relatively low key about the whole thing. In addition to her "climbing philosophy", she simply moves with style. I think someone who climbs a 5.10 and makes it look fun and easy is much better of a climber than someone who grunts and flails their way up a 5.12. I've seem videos of Lynn climb 5.12's with amazingly smooth motion and obvious control. Â Second, Lynn hill has been pushing climbing for many years. She's got quite a list of firsts, and her progress isn't just a flash in the pan. I'll admit I can't name of the list now, but I remember seeing her name in quite a few places in the RR guide, I've heard she was a leader in the Gunks for a while, and I'm sure there are plenty of places I haven't even heard of that she's put up routes. Â Finally, it's undeniable she is gorgeous! She's buff and just has a natural beauty! WOW! Above all, Lynn Hill's greatest attribute is her style. I know it might be a stretch for some of the hangover hardmen out there, but I think Lynn Hill deserves high regard form the climbing community. Â [ 04-16-2002, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: max ] Quote
Dru Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 quote: Originally posted by specialed: quote:Originally posted by fern: Lynn Hill may be a better climber but I have a bigger rack Lynn Hill may be a better climber than me too but I have a penis. Ed I hope you have an operators manual for that. Untrained use can result in stains on the sheets, stains on the pant leg, embarrasment, pregnancy, and disease. Quote
specialed Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 qb]Ed I hope you have an operators manual for that. Untrained use can result in stains on the sheets, stains on the pant leg, embarrasment, pregnancy, and disease.[/QB]Â Well I've managed to avoid the pregnancy and disease part so far(as far as I know anyway). Quote
Dwayner Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 "So my question to you all is: what trad climber (m/f) is more bad ass than Hill??? Â Enough of this stupid topic. Let me answer your question. Who's more "bad-ass" than me? Dwayner and pope. End of story. - L.H. P.S. You guys think I'm flat? Well...uh...you're all a bunch of booger-heads!! And Dwayner, thanks for letting me use your computer, password, etc. to set these guys straight. I'm off for a jog but I'll wake you for breakfast at noon. XXX Quote
Dru Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 You know, if there is a Sam Hill in Icicle Canyon, why not name a new crag Lynn Hill? Quote
specialed Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 Â Â [ 04-17-2002, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: specialed ] Quote
Retrosaurus Posted April 17, 2002 Posted April 17, 2002 quote: Originally posted by specialed: Rachel Babkirk smokes crack!!??? Hell yes. It was smoking for two hours afterwards. But Ray put out the fire. Dumbass wouldn't stop talking bout Britney Spears. Quote
Szyjakowski Posted April 18, 2002 Posted April 18, 2002 hey ray rachel=chick in New river gorge photo spread last year climbing mag?? if so, Quote
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