Mtguide Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 MisterE said: If in fact you did really have everything,that would most likely mean you'd also have the place(s) to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Hussein reminds me of Louis Freeh, our former FBI Director. I didn't want to hear anything he disagreed with. He was famous for shooting the messenger. Many capable people were demoted or transferred. After eight years of that, many of the best managers retired. Sorry for the thread drift, but I just finished Kessler's book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Great, thanks catbird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Now is not the time to be blindly accepting everything presented to you by the US gov't and the US media at face value. Finding the guy disoriented, disheveled, and docile seems pretty surprising to me. His sons fought to the death, and I'd have expected him to do the same, or to kill himself. It's too convenient in terms of our propaganda war for the guy to somehow turn up looking like a "rat in a hole" as one military guy put it today. You guys are entitled to take it at face value though, just as I'm entitled to keep asking questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Maryloser- While your busy looking for a sinister plan I'll still be getting laughs. It's funny to see people like you so up tight when anything might go "right" when Bushy is in office. The like of you folks just foaming at the mouth is fucking hilarious. All you thrive on is hatred and contempt instead of any sort of resemblence of facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 It's not necessarily surprising that he'd be found like a rat - look at the capture of the Nazis - few fought to the death. I am curious what proof they have that the person they found is Saddam - after all this is a paranoid psyhcopath with tens of body doubles who hasn't been seen in public in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I thought this thread was gonna be about Keiko dying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 As to proving this is Saddam: I suppose now that you have him and his (dead) sons, you could do DNA testing and/or blood testing to ascertain whether the three people are related. If the three are found to be related, then it can reasonably be argued that the three people are who we (the U.S. Coilition Forces) say they are. Still, there will always be the naysayers like Marylou. These are the same people that poo-pooed the war effort in saying "but we haven't even caught Saddam yet. This war is illegitimate." Now that Saddam is caught they want to try and save face. They will now re-pick up the WMD initiative for their camp's soapbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 klenke said: As to proving this is Saddam: I suppose now that you have him and his (dead) sons, you could do DNA testing and/or blood testing to ascertain whether the three people are related. If the three are found to be related, then it can reasonably be argued that the three people are who we (the U.S. Coilition Forces) say they are. I was thinking along the same lines. As with the Kennedy assassination there are always people who'd like to believe in fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Maryloo,Good god, so just because YOU think he should have fought or killed himself everyone else is wrong and it all should be under suspicion? Though you know NOTHING of what has gone on in his life for the last 8 months? Get over your brilliance it is really quite dull in reality. So what is your great theory?That we caught him months ago and made him grow a beard to his chest and didn't give him a shower for that time so we could make him look a little out of it?Don't you think w/ the election year coming up that Bush would want to put this feather in his cap ASAP to end the all doubters and take away some ammo from the democrats? You are a real bonehead if you think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 cj001f said: It's not necessarily surprising that he'd be found like a rat - look at the capture of the Nazis - few fought to the death. I am curious what proof they have that the person they found is Saddam - after all this is a paranoid psyhcopath with tens of body doubles who hasn't been seen in public in years. I heard they have already done DNA testing on him. Positive, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Some people still think Hitler and Elvis are alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willstrickland Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Mary Lunatic: I know you union workers make a decent wage, but you seem to be a little short on cash. I just mailed you a check for $12.95 so you can... 1. Buy a clue 2. Stop off at Wal Mart and buy a can of STFU You want to cite some other media that conflicts with the US media accounts of the events? Or you just want to be bitter and continue to make an ass out of yourself? Stick with your talents I guess... John Alan Mohammed / Lee Malvo ... found sleeping in a car Ted Kazinski....found in an underground root cellar/shack Eric Robert Rudolph....found dumpster diving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylou Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Oh, calm down, you rabid bunch of spray dogs. All of the information regarding the capture of SH has thus far come from one source, the US gummint. There's nothing wack job about being a little skeptical until all the facts are in. And Klenke's right. I for one have never supported the invasion and occupation of Iraq by the USA. Even if we did capture SH today, it doesn't make the whole thing okay with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Marylooloo, How about we put you over in Iraq, put a $25,000,000 bounty on your head, set you up w/ a internet account so everyone will inevitably despise you and want to turn you in , then have the most powerful nation in the world hunt you day in and out for 8 months and see what you look like and where you finally end up? Sound good? I'm sure we could take up a collection to get a plane ticket for you. Sounds like Will is in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 To avoid skepticism among Iraqis, the U.S. military said it confirmed Hussein's identity with a DNA test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracked Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Ahh, cc.com, we know it all....even before it happens! Maybe we should flame more when we know more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griz Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 They have had him longer than 12 hours. Sounds like 2 days considering they kept it under wraps for a day. I'm not an expert on DNA, how long does it take to complete a test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 cracked said: Ahh, cc.com, we know it all....even before it happens! Maybe we should flame more when we know more. Since when has not knowing anything ever stopped you from Spraying long and hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I for one am damned glad that he is in custody. I did not and for the most part do support the war and occupation. I do however believe this guy needed to be removed from power. Is there a shadow of doubt that it really is Sadaam? I'll choose to believe it's him until proven otherwise. I second Will's comments about historically guys like this when captured do tend to go quietly. Kinda like they are big chicken shits one on one with no one backing them up. I hope that this brings and end or at least a huge slow down on the attacks on American troops in Iraq. Now let's get this thing over with, get our troops home and prosecute Halliburton, get Bush out of office and be done with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doug Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I really wonder if that guy is still around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 they seem to think so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 I'm curious of the exact details of how we actually got him.... which I assume we may never hear. Was he asleep? Did we gas him? Did he have even half a chance to reach for a weapon? Did he have any warning of capture (i.e. noise from outside)? I am truly amazed that he was captured without any shots fired from either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Here's what was said on the Evening News (NBC) just now: Acting on a tip from one of Saddam's co-thugs, the Army stormed two residences. In one of them in the (back)yard, they found a hole covered over by camoflauging (bricks and dirt). About eight feet down in the hole, which was sort of L-shaped and about 6 ft x 8 ft, they found SH lying face down. The hole had ventilation with a fan, so it was obviously a bunker for hiding in. No cell phone or other communications devices were found with him. They said he had a pistol on him but how are you really going to fight when you're in a hole against unknown numbers of enemy above you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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