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It was because of that goddam prosperity we were suffering from for seven years under Clinton/Gore. All those people driving their shiny new SUV's to work. Now that so many of those people are out of work, the air has gotten much better. Thank you so much Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney.

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Trask, go visit Houston sometime. Tell me if the air is good there.

 

Incidently, they had a clear day on Saturday- 78 degrees and 40% made the National news. The day before it was 87 degrees, 90% humidity and smoggy as hell.

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No party has clean hands on this one. One of the big issues is emissions of "light trucks", which believe it or not includes SUVs like the Excursion and Hummer.

 

Orginally meant to give a break to ranchers/farmers in the west that drove over wide areas with working vehicles the lower standards were not anticipated to cover soccer moms bopping around town or outdoor image meisters.

 

Feeble attempts to bring the emisison standards back into the fold of all vehicle emissions have been squashed. But the Bushie agenda is clear - loosen up the regulatory framework such as recent EOs regarding power plant upgrades, air qualty standards in National Parks (including the snow machines in Yellowstone), and a number of subvertive actions regarding NEPA regulations and air quality.

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Basically, Bush created a "voluntary" compliance program where polluters could reduce emissions if they felt like it. The results are ambiguous. While they are not dramatically worse, they aren't better either. They are worse relative to another city, Los Angeles. Since the business cycle has an effect on smog, comparison to LA has the effect of normalizing the results.

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catbirdseat said:

Basically, Bush created a "voluntary" compliance program where polluters could reduce emissions if they felt like it. The results are ambiguous. While they are not dramatically worse, they aren't better either. They are worse relative to another city, Los Angeles. Since the business cycle has an effect on smog, comparison to LA has the effect of normalizing the results.

 

compared to jakarta we are golden! rockband.gifgrin.gif

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scott_harpell said:

catbirdseat said:

Basically, Bush created a "voluntary" compliance program where polluters could reduce emissions if they felt like it. The results are ambiguous. While they are not dramatically worse, they aren't better either. They are worse relative to another city, Los Angeles. Since the business cycle has an effect on smog, comparison to LA has the effect of normalizing the results.

 

compared to jakarta we are golden! rockband.gifgrin.gif

 

Yes I agree we should start comparing ourselves to third world countries. The longer Bush stays in power the more we will have in common with the third world.

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