incubus Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 morning j-b hope you have a swell day Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 PP if you post anything with his name it might be an attack Quote
scrambler Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 incubus said: morning j-b Hmm...must be an officer. Defensive weapon... "Get in there, men! Knock out that German machine gun nest!" Quote
incubus Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 scrambler - perhaps it's Sgt. York Sgt. Alvin York On the morning of 8 October 1918, elements of the 328th Infantry, 82nd Division, United States Army, were pinned down by German machine-gun fire. Seventeen men, under the command of Sgt. Bernard Early, were ordered to out-flank the machine guns. Shortly after they left their own lines, they came across a German officer and several soldiers having breakfast. Believing that they were surrounded, the Germans surrendered. However, before Early could detach a man to take the prisoners back through the lines, intensive machine gun fire swept the patrol. Eight American soldiers survived. Sgt. Early was killed. As the remaining non-com, Cpl. Alvin York took command of the patrol. While the remaining Americans covered their prisoners, trying at the same time to avoid enemy fire, York spotted the location of the German guns, about 30 yards away. In addition to his Enfield M1917 rifle, he also carried a Colt .45 automatic pistol. The German gunners peeked over the tops of their Maxim guns to avoid hitting their own men. With the appearance of each face, framed in its "coal-scuttle" helmet, York's Enfield spoke. One shot equaled one dead gunner. York was from the Tennessee mountains where firearms were used to put food on the table. Mountain folk were frugal, making each shot count. Unnoticed by York, several Germans moved forward, locating York's position. Out of sight, they counted the shots from York's rifle, establishing the pattern of his shooting. They counted a series of 5 shots from his Enfield and rushed York to gain the advantage of the few extra seconds it took to reload the rifle. As the Germans charged, they came into easy pistol range. York brought the .45 automatic into action, stopping the patrol in its tracks. He continued shooting and advancing, killing a total of 25 German soldiers and capturing 132 by himself. York was promoted to Sergeant and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. Quote
scrambler Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 incubus said: scrambler - perhaps it's Sgt. York Sgt. Alvin York On the morning of 8 October 1918, elements of the 328th Infantry, 82nd Division, United States Army, were pinned down by German machine-gun fire. Seventeen men, under the command of Sgt. Bernard Early, were ordered to out-flank the machine guns. Shortly after they left their own lines, they came across a German officer and several soldiers having breakfast. Believing that they were surrounded, the Germans surrendered. However, before Early could detach a man to take the prisoners back through the lines, intensive machine gun fire swept the patrol. Eight American soldiers survived. Sgt. Early was killed. As the remaining non-com, Cpl. Alvin York took command of the patrol. While the remaining Americans covered their prisoners, trying at the same time to avoid enemy fire, York spotted the location of the German guns, about 30 yards away. In addition to his Enfield M1917 rifle, he also carried a Colt .45 automatic pistol. The German gunners peeked over the tops of their Maxim guns to avoid hitting their own men. With the appearance of each face, framed in its "coal-scuttle" helmet, York's Enfield spoke. One shot equaled one dead gunner. York was from the Tennessee mountains where firearms were used to put food on the table. Mountain folk were frugal, making each shot count. Unnoticed by York, several Germans moved forward, locating York's position. Out of sight, they counted the shots from York's rifle, establishing the pattern of his shooting. They counted a series of 5 shots from his Enfield and rushed York to gain the advantage of the few extra seconds it took to reload the rifle. As the Germans charged, they came into easy pistol range. York brought the .45 automatic into action, stopping the patrol in its tracks. He continued shooting and advancing, killing a total of 25 German soldiers and capturing 132 by himself. York was promoted to Sergeant and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. The perfect war story. Tons better than the Jessica Lynch story. They don't make 'em like they used to. Quote
incubus Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 erik said: LETS GET THE LINK TO THAT. Erik, if you're talking about the gun link, here it is. Quote
Fairweather Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 Peter_Puget said: Separated at Birth: PP The first guy is the leader of Hamas and is responsible for hundreds of murders. Israel tried to eliminate him recently, but unfortunately, failed. I'm sure his journey to hell will begin soon. Quote
j_b Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 scrambler said: They don't make 'em like they used to. probably more like it that nowadays it's much more difficult to portray war as a glorious affair. when i think of ww1, this kind of event (if event it was) is not what comes to mind. PP, it depends on your intent. also, i have no idea what you meant to say. anyhow, i don't have a problem with it, even though i don't especially like to be targeted since, in this environemnt, one never knows what the mob will turn out to say. Quote
RobBob Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 The first guy is the leader of Hamas and is responsible for hundreds of murders. Israel tried to eliminate him recently, but unfortunately, failed. I'm sure his journey to hell will begin soon. On the other hand, how about the 26 Israeli pilots, current and retired, who had the balls yesterday to sign a letter refusing to obey orders in future to bomb Palestinian targets where they know they will kill women and children? I give those men the medal of valor for the day---they were emphatic about their love of country, but refuse to execute what they know are immoral acts. Quote
AlpineK Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 RobBob said: The first guy is the leader of Hamas and is responsible for hundreds of murders. Israel tried to eliminate him recently, but unfortunately, failed. I'm sure his journey to hell will begin soon. On the other hand, how about the 26 Israeli pilots, current and retired, who had the balls yesterday to sign a letter refusing to obey orders in future to bomb Palestinian targets where they know they will kill women and children? I give those men the medal of valor for the day---they were emphatic about their love of country, but refuse to execute what they know are immoral acts. No shit. Quote
scrambler Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 j_b said: scrambler said: They don't make 'em like they used to. probably more like it that nowadays it's much more difficult to portray war as a glorious affair. when i think of ww1, this kind of event (if event it was) is not what comes to mind. You totally missed the point, JB. When I say 'them' am I referring to the people or to the stories? Quote
incubus Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 j_b said: it's difficult to portray war as a glorious affair. I think Gen. Patton would disagree with you. Quote
j_b Posted September 26, 2003 Posted September 26, 2003 scrambler said:You totally missed the point, JB. When I say 'them' am I referring to the people or to the stories? oops! does it mean one should not be too subtle around here? Quote
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