allthumbs Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Scores Killed, Hundreds Injured As Para-Military Extremists Riot - Could It Happen Again? BOSTON, April 20 - National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a paramilitary extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimated that 72 were killed and more than 20 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw. Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons. Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early April between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned their weapons over voluntarily." "Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans. During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor has also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock , who have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction, remain at large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 what about the environmental impact on endangered wildlife of dumping all that tea in the harbour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Yngve Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Dru said: what about the environmental impact on endangered wildlife of dumping all that tea in the harbour What's a harbour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronomicon Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 I think that's where you grow trees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Dru said: what about the environmental impact on endangered wildlife of dumping all that tea in the harbour Shut the fuck up, milktoast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Dru said: who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. One hint of violence and I'm sure you'll run like the scared little bitch you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lI1|1! Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Dru said: who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. do you have a reference, besides a canadian drinking song, that canadian troops were among the british troops who actually did burn washington dc? i recall trying to look this up a while back and not finding any evidense that canadians where there, just brits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted September 18, 2003 Author Share Posted September 18, 2003 Dru, say what you want but lately when the shit hits the fan and the U.S. needs help, Canada is conspicuously absent, much like their French brothers. What gives? Do you have anything but a wisecrack to answer this question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Trask said: "Dru, say what you want but lately when the shit hits the fan and the U.S. needs help, Canada is conspicuously absent, much like their French brothers. What gives? Do you have anything but a wisecrack to answer this question?" I think I can reply to that: Gulf War I - we were there. Afghanistan - we were there, and still are. Gulf War, Jr. - no we didn't "officially" participate, because we disagreed with the manner in which GWB pushed his personal vendetta down the world's throat. BUT, if you check the roster, you'll find that many of the countries that signed onto the "Coalition of the Bought and Paid For" sent no actual material support of any kind. But Canada? There were more Canadian troops attached to and serving alongside US forces in combat in Iraq than most of your so-called "Allies" combined. And we increased our commitment in Afghanistan by something like 5,000 troops specifically so that US Forces in Afghanistan could be re-deployed to Iraq. The Canadian Navy has been on station in the Gulf region for several years now, and at an increased level since September 11, assisting US and other naval forces in intercepting suspected arms shipments, Al Quaeda fugitives, etc. Believe it or not, Trask, we've been there all along, even though we declined to sign George's stupid little self-agrandizing piece of paper. And I hesitate to remind you, Trask, but when the shit REALLY hit the fan, in 1939, the US - that great defender of Liberty and Freedom - refused to get involved until late 1941, and then only because the Japanese hit you so hard you've never forgotten it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 lI1|1! said: Dru said: who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. do you have a reference, besides a canadian drinking song, that canadian troops were among the british troops who actually did burn washington dc? i recall trying to look this up a while back and not finding any evidense that canadians where there, just brits. um those "British" troops were Canadians, EH! Canada was technically part of Britain then. You can look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Greg_W said: Dru said: who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. One hint of violence and I'm sure you'll run like the scared little bitch you are. we will send the squamish teenagers down there to commit mayhem. they know how to beat up Americans apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Right. When you get 16 fucks beating up 3 fucks, it's a fair fight in Canada, right? Pansy little jackasses they are. Probably boulderers, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_b Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 murraysovereign said: Trask said: "Dru, say what you want but lately when the shit hits the fan and the U.S. needs help, Canada is conspicuously absent, much like their French brothers. What gives? Do you have anything but a wisecrack to answer this question?" I think I can reply to that: Gulf War I - we were there. Afghanistan - we were there, and still are. same goes for the western euros who did not support bush this time around. but i suspect we should not let facts get in the way of a rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg_W Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Dru said: Greg_W said: Dru said: who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. One hint of violence and I'm sure you'll run like the scared little bitch you are. we will send the squamish teenagers down there to commit mayhem. they know how to beat up Americans apparently. By all means, send them - I've got two full clips and a 12-gauge besides. Trask has an arsenal as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 Greg_W said: Dru said: who burned down the white house in the war of 1812, huh? CANADIAN TROOPS IS WHO!!! dont piss us off or we might come down there and hand out more ass whuppin. One hint of violence and I'm sure you'll run like the scared little bitch you are. Greag, Johnny Horton sang it best in his song, The Battle Of New Orleans. In 1814 we took a little trip along with Colonel Jackson down the mighty Mississip. We took a little bacon and we took a little beans and we caught the bloody British in the town of New Orleans. *Chorus* We fired our guns and the British kept on comin' There wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago. We fired once more and they began to runnin' down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. We looked down the river and we've seen the british come and there must have been a hunnerd of 'em beatin on the drum. They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring but we stood behind our cotton bales 'n' didn't say a thing. Chorus Ol' Hickory said we could take 'em by surprise if we didn't fire our muskets 'till we looked 'em in the eyes. We held our fire 'till we seed their faces well then we opened up the squirrel guns and really gave em.... well we Chorus Well they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles and they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go. they ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. We fired our cannon 'till the barrel melted down so we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round. We filled his head with cannonballs, powered his behind and when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind. Chorus Yeah they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles and they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go. They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em A down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 well now there is also a song that goes The War of 1812 Oh come back proud Canadians To before you had TV. No "Hockey Night" in Canada - There was no CBC. In 1812 - Madison was MAD He was the President you know, He thought he'd tell the British Where they ought to go. He thought he'd invade Canada. He thought that he was tough. Instead we went to Washington.... And burned down all his stuff! And the Whitehouse burned burned burned And we're the ones that did it! It burned burned burned While the president ran and cried! It burned burned burned And things were very historical! And Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies "Wah! Wah! Wah!" In the War of 1812! Now Hillbillies from Kentucky, Dressed in green and red, Let home to fight in Canada, But they returned home dead. It's the only war the Yankees lost... Except for Vietnam.... And also - The Alamo.... And the bay of...Ham! The Loser was America. The Winner was ourselves. So join right in and gloat about The War of 1812! And the Whitehouse burned burned burned And we're the ones that did it! It burned burned burned While the president ran and cried! It burned burned burned And things were very historical! And Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies "Wah! Wah! Wah!" In the War of 1812! segway into Johnny Horton remix In 1812 we were just sittin' around Mindin' our own business Puttin crops into the ground We heard the soldiers coming And we didn't like that sound. So we took a boat to Washington And burned it to the ground! Oh we fired our guns But the Yankees kept a comin'! There wasn't quite as many as there was a while ago. We fired once more And the Yankees started runnin' Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico! Oh they ran through the snow And they ran through the forest They ran through the bushes where a beaver wouldn't go! They ran so fast They forgot to take their culture Back to America.... (and golf and Texaco) So if you go to Washington, It's building clean and nice, Bring a pack of matches..... And we'll Burn the Whitehouse Twice!!!! And the Whitehouse burned burned burned And we're the ones that did it! It burned burned burned While the president ran and cried! It burned burned burned I bet that made them MAD! And Americans ran and cried like a bunch of little babies "Wah! Wah! Wah!" In the War of 1812! "wah wah wah" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 One of the more recent "Ex-Presidents" - I think it was Bush Senior, maybe Reagan or Clinton, can't recall exactly - told how he used to go out onto one of the balconies of the White House from time to time. If you look up near the top of some of those columns from the back side apparently you can still see some of the charred wood. Seems we didn't do a very thorough job of incinerating the place, and they were able to save a good part of the original structure. Anyway, he used to go and look up at this blackened bit of history just to remind himself that nobody and nothing is completely invulnerable. He said it used to bring him back down to earth when he got to feeling a bit cocky about being top dog and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 if it was clinton he was probably going out onto the balcony to smoke a fatty or have a quickie with monica... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratboy Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 murraysovereign said: The Canadian Navy has been on station in the Gulf region for several years now... Canada has a Navy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murraysovereign Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 Ratboy said: Canada has a Navy? Yep, sure do. And pretty much the whole thing has been in the Persian Gulf and Arabian Sea since Gulf War Sr. That's a nice picture of about 1/6th of it in your link. But at least ours is fully deployed (well, except the part that's in dry-dock), not sunning in Hawaii or running away from storms like the majority of the US Navy. Why the Hell do you bother building all those things if you're not going to put them in the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_destiny Posted September 20, 2003 Share Posted September 20, 2003 WEll mURRAY, WE BUILD THAT MANY SO WE CAN CONTROL AS MANY PLACES AS WE SEE FIT TO. wHA THE FUCK, WHY BE A WORLD POWER IF YOU CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD AT ONCE. wASN'T IT THE eNGLISH THAT SAID, "tHE SUN NEVER SET ON THE eMPIRE"? wELL, THE WORLD NEVER GOES WITHOUT BE OBSERVED BY THE uNITED sTATES. rEMEMBER WE HAVE ELECTRONIC EYES OVER HEAD, ELECTRONIC EARS UNDER THE SEA, AND CLIMBERS HAVE PLANTED MANY LISTENING AND LOCATER DEVICES AROUND THE BOARDERS OF GREAT RANGES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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