MtnGoat Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 wow, the CIA is now planting 20 or 30 foot long missiles full of poison gas to make the Saddam look like a bad guy! Time for the backpedaling to begin! "We never said he didn't have chemical weapons"........"everyone always knew"......" we were only asking for proof of proof"..... just a few suggestions for starters. In a few years, you'll not find a soul who will admit anything else. Reuters Monday, April 7, 2003; 10:25 AM WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. forces near Baghdad found a weapons cache of around 20 medium-range missiles equipped with potent chemical weapons, the U.S. news station National Public Radio reported on Monday. NPR, which attributed the report to a top official with the 1st Marine Division, said the rockets, BM-21 missiles, were equipped with sarin and mustard gas and were "ready to fire." It quoted the source as saying new U.S. intelligence data showed the chemicals were "not just trace elements." It said the cache was discovered by Marines with the 101st Airborne Division, which was following up behind the Army after it seized Baghdad's international airport. U.S. Central Command headquarters in Qatar had no immediate comment. The United States and Britain launched the war against Iraq to rid the country of weapons of mass destruction. Iraq denies having such weapons. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47645-2003Apr7.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Don't forget, "but they are only medium range missiles...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 vegetablebelay said: Don't forget, "but they are only medium range missiles...." Well, they do have considerably less range than my Ford Econoline with a full tank of gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 MtnGoat said: Time for the backpedaling to begin! "We never said he didn't have chemical weapons"........"everyone always knew"......" we were only asking for proof of proof"..... just a few suggestions for starters. In a few years, you'll not find a soul who will admit anything else. it's not backpedaling if that's what's been said all along. and a u.s. police state in the middle of the middle east was definitely worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 I've got a medium range chemical weapon in my ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 trask said: I've got a medium range chemical weapon in my ass. May I recommend you down a pint of acetone as a propellant? Greater, ummm, muzzle velocity will lessen the chances your victims will be able to flee in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Hey Goat, There are a certain number of people for which there will never be enough proof. There are a certain number of people who will never admit (and in some cases even understand) that the UN dramatically failed to enforce its ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 China, Egypt, Syria, Israel, Iran, and North Korea are also suspected of having undeclared stockpiles of chemical weapons. Libya, Sudan, Pakistan, and India are also suspected of having chemical weapons facilities or capabilites. This of course does not include all those countries who are believed to have admitted to all of their stockpiles. For example, the US is in the process of incinerating our 30,000 tons of nerve gas, and Russia proposes their 40,000 metric tons (quantity is speculative, not confirmed) to be destroyed by 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 but only Iraq has Saddam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGowans Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Just want to point out that the "smoking gun" they found was nothing more than pesticide. The allied coalition looks like a horse's arse right now. Until they find WMD, they're going to have a hard time convincing liberal wankers like me that the war was justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 JGowans, what's your source? This morning it was reported to be Sarin and Mustard Gas, has this changed, and who's assessment is it? One would hope the US military would get some serious confirmation before announcing things, lest they be caught crying wolf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 MtnGoat said: said the rockets, BM-21 missiles, were equipped with sarin and mustard gas and were "ready to fire." It quoted the source as saying new U.S. intelligence data showed the chemicals were "not just trace elements." This is the same US intelligence that was fooled by obvious photocopied forgeries about African uranium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 NEWS FLASK -- NY TIMES REPORTS THE UNITED STATES JUST SLID INTO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 This "smoking gun" is different than the 20 missiles MtnGoat is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Off...the difference being that we didn't have an altercation with those nations in 1991, and the UN didn't put specific rules and sanctions on them as a result...right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 No it's not VB, the libs got it all figured out with their ultra dependable newz sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGowans Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Off_White said: JGowans, what's your source? This morning it was reported to be Sarin and Mustard Gas, has this changed, and who's assessment is it? One would hope the US military would get some serious confirmation before announcing things, lest they be caught crying wolf. Weird. I just read it on Yahoo! and now it seems that they've pulled the story. I can't find it now. I'll keep digging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 RobBob said: Off...the difference being that we didn't have an altercation with those nations in 1991, and the UN didn't put specific rules and sanctions on them as a result...right?? Yep, that's true Robbob. I just presented data, everyone can draw their own conclusions. Of course, China, India, Pakistan, Sudan, and Iran have ratified the Chemical Weapons Convention, and are likely in violation. Israel and Egypt have signed but not ratified, and North Korea or Libya did not sign. For myself, looking at the big picture, 20 missles in Iraq does not yet justify the tens of billions of dollars and lives lost, or constitute much of a world wide threat. I do think they're likely to find some more, but at this point I think we're still just fishing for excuses to justify what we wanted to do for a whole range of other reasons. But of course now I've strayed into opinion, and which I'll freely admit will require more facts to change. I'd guess that's true for your opinions too. Lets see what the next few days brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 A bit more about it here BTW, I know that most of you hope they're not WMD as this would hurt your anti-American cause. How would you discredit the U.S. if they were the real deal? Hell, it'd be back to the drawing board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_White Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 JGowans said: Off_White said: JGowans, what's your source? This morning it was reported to be Sarin and Mustard Gas, has this changed, and who's assessment is it? One would hope the US military would get some serious confirmation before announcing things, lest they be caught crying wolf. Weird. I just read it on Yahoo! and now it seems that they've pulled the story. I can't find it now. I'll keep digging. I was wondering if you were referring to the missles recently found. I noticed CNN currently has the story only as a Breaking News headline with other info, suggesting more tests are ongoing and preliminary tests were positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGowans Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Off_White said: JGowans said: Off_White said: JGowans, what's your source? This morning it was reported to be Sarin and Mustard Gas, has this changed, and who's assessment is it? One would hope the US military would get some serious confirmation before announcing things, lest they be caught crying wolf. Weird. I just read it on Yahoo! and now it seems that they've pulled the story. I can't find it now. I'll keep digging. I was wondering if you were referring to the missles recently found. I noticed CNN currently has the story only as a Breaking News headline with other info, suggesting more tests are ongoing and preliminary tests were positive. No, the yahoo sotry specifically talked about the possible chemical site with the drums of chemicals that they'd discovered. it then explained that it was confirmed to be nothing more than pesticide and then had a few quotes talking about the embarrassing declaration which proved to be nothing at all. I wonder why Yahoo! pulled it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGowans Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Here we go... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030407/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_war_wmd_030407175243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 MtnGoat said: wow, the CIA is now planting 20 or 30 foot long missiles full of poison gas to make the Saddam look like a bad guy! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47645-2003Apr7.html Idiots who think that make me puke. Whoever honestly believes this is dumber than I thought possible. It is, however, a nice catch phrase, and a neat way to blame the US for everything. Just like the chickenshits like France, Germany, etc, etc, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20030407/wl_afp/iraq_war_wmd&cid=1512&ncid=1480 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGowans Posted April 7, 2003 Share Posted April 7, 2003 Sphinx said: MtnGoat said: wow, the CIA is now planting 20 or 30 foot long missiles full of poison gas to make the Saddam look like a bad guy! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47645-2003Apr7.html Idiots like you make me puke. If you honestly believe this then you are dumber than I thought. It is, however, a nice catch phrase, and a neat way to blame the US for everything. Just like the chickenshits like France, Germany, etc, etc, etc. call me crazy, but i think this was supposed to be a sarcastic remark aimed at us liberals as opposed to him actually suggesting that CIA was planting these missiles. am i missing the joke here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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