idahojoe Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Any info on getting up or onto the Coope Spur ? We are coming over mid March and need some info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Look at the weather reports, read the avy reports, form your own opinion. If you can't manage that you probably owe it to yourself and SAR to stay off the mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Know_Fear Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Joe, The mountain is in good shape right now (my opinion). In general we've had a very low snow year, i.e. the snow pack is about 10-15 feet thinner at 6000 ft than it normally would be. This makes the skiing suck. However, again my observation here, the upper mountain has it's typical layer of rime. I attribute that to normal precip, combined with freezing levels above 8500 ft. Freezing levels have been down to 4000 for a couple of weeks now. About 1.5 weeks ago we got a big dump of snow down to 4500 (late winter?). There were some avis on the north side - mostly on the Elliot and Coe from what I've seen. In summary the snow is hard - lots of styrofoam, and the climbing is good. We've had several very nice weather windows this winter. Cooper spur isn't as popular as some of the other Mt. Hood routes so recent beta may be lacking. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Keep on eye on the avy conditions. We're getting dumped on ... may be a foot or two of unconsolidated on top of a week layer. I'll be up on the north side skiing and perhaps climbing his weekend and will have more information early next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idahojoe Posted March 4, 2003 Author Share Posted March 4, 2003 hey dickhead. I've usually found that in my 30 plus years of climbing that fellow climbers enjoy and welcome out of state climbers who are looking to sample new areas. Asking for local beta has been great way to get up to speed on local and current conditions. If you think that looking at some local gov report, or weather generated info will keep SAR off the mountain, then I'm sure that you will be on a first name basis with them soon enough. I used to think climbers were polite, respectful, and encouraging to others but you have once again proved the shallowness of the local gene pool.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 joe, don't let one dude get you down. as you see, know_fear was more than happy to help as many such folks would be. I hope you enjoy your time down in Oregon and have a great climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 I was responding to your triple posting and in one case posting off topic in the wrong thread. Sorry if I got your panties in a wad dickhead. I welcome out of state climbers here all the time, as a matter of fact they sometimes crash at my place and vice-versa. Good luck and best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 rbw1966 said: I was responding to your triple posting and in one case posting off topic in the wrong thread. Sorry if I got your panties in a wad dickhead. I welcome out of state climbers here all the time, as a matter of fact they sometimes crash at my place and vice-versa. Good luck and best wishes. my god, i think i love everyone so why do i still wanna call someone a dickwad too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 listen up, it is obvious that you are not to me a real hard russian climber, ivan, despite your name that is attempt to fool me into thinking more russian things about you. if you are feeling that calling a name like dickwad makes you an equal of a great russian climber, than I understand that you might need this to make you feel better. climb hard, TRAIN HARDER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 JoshK said: listen up, it is obvious that you are not to me a real hard russian climber, ivan, despite your name that is attempt to fool me into thinking more russian things about you. if you are feeling that calling a name like dickwad makes you an equal of a great russian climber, than I understand that you might need this to make you feel better. climb hard, TRAIN HARDER. dickwad! kchortu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Dobre! Nas Dravya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Война в Ираке откладывается Атеисты будут добиваться отмены преподавания "Основ православной культуры" через суд Выставка "Осторожно, религия!" закрыта досрочно Нужна ли в России смертная казнь TRAINING HARD EVERY DAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 4, 2003 Share Posted March 4, 2003 Hmm...silly bulliten board doesn't display real russian characters. Shame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnHigh Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Rob wrote: "Look at the weather reports, read the avy reports, form your own opinion. If you can't manage that you probably owe it to yourself and SAR to stay off the mountain." I was thinking exactly the fucking thing. Excellent response!!! I'm still laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cluck Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Joe, You gotta take the good along with the bad. Sometimes you get beta, sometimes you get yelled at. I know it's probably faux pas to link to SP, but SummitPost has some route info on Cooper Spur. Check out this page for route beta. Probably won't find much in the way of current conditions though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 idahojoe said: hey dickhead. I've usually found that in my 30 plus years of climbing that fellow climbers enjoy and welcome out of state climbers who are looking to sample new areas. Asking for local beta has been great way to get up to speed on local and current conditions. If you think that looking at some local gov report, or weather generated info will keep SAR off the mountain, then I'm sure that you will be on a first name basis with them soon enough. I used to think climbers were polite, respectful, and encouraging to others but you have once again proved the shallowness of the local gene pool.... Ahh. This is like a trip down memory lane. Except I forgot the address 15 years ago. I've been climbing for 30 years+ and still get pissed at some of these sniveling little pricks on cc.com too. Then I find myself posting responses and feel like having a cigarette. Can someone tell me what is happening to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbw1966 Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Your level of tolerance goes down? Dunno. All I know is Idahojoe posted a request for info on Cooper Spur at 7:09 in the Yocum Ridge thread, created a new topic at 7:10 requesting the same thing, then created yet another new topic asking the same thing at 9:11. Triple posting is clogging the board with useless stuff (much like this post). Maybe a little patience was in order. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, including Joe. I do wish him the best and maybe I'll seem him out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 Cooper Spur blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 the annoyance index is rising! so if you had a choice of which pass to drive E to W this afternoon would you choose gov't camp or santiam? i'm a snow driving pussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 gov't camp is almost universally better than santiam pass. I'd go north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gapertimmy Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 yah but its much more exciting... and i could go get some deep steeps at hoodoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iain Posted March 5, 2003 Share Posted March 5, 2003 you could get some excitement on the turn around Hogg Rock near the pass summit. Nice crust w/a foot of new on it...thing slides at times like these, sent a snow plow over the guardrail a few years back. Ski Hoodoo. We Do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 Go for the real excitment...head reeeeeaally far north and go across stevens. I swear, that thing can get so freaking shitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bug Posted March 6, 2003 Share Posted March 6, 2003 rbw1966 said: Your level of tolerance goes down? Dunno. I couldn't get much lower. Sometimes I give my cat a viagra and lock him in the bathroom with my dog. It's the only thing that keeps me going. All I know is Idahojoe posted a request for info on Cooper Spur at 7:09 in the Yocum Ridge thread, created a new topic at 7:10 requesting the same thing, then created yet another new topic asking the same thing at 9:11. Triple posting is clogging the board with useless stuff (much like this post). Maybe a little patience was in order. Sometimes the patient one missed the untracked powder. I'm sorry if I offended anyone, including Joe. I do wish him the best and maybe I'll seem him out there. None taken. A little humor is all I ask. Allow for some mistakes to be made. Most of us come here for information. I never trust one source alone. Sometimes I have a shot to go with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 I was up at Cloudcap this weekend. We showed up on Friday afternoon at the Tilly Jane traihead around 4 pm and started up the trail. As we got to the top of the ski area, our party was on the way back down. The two leaders had been breaking trail on the TJ for about 6 hours in 4 ft of heavy snow. Brutal. A group of Crag Rats caught up and finished off the job, but our group bailed, because we were with a few young kids. We went up on Saturday instead. The temps began to rise, and the snow turned to mud. We got in a few minimal turns after dumping our stuff at Cloudcap. There is about 4 ft. of super heavy snow on top of about 2 inches of hore. Above treeline, the avyconditions will be skethy depending on exposure. I would wait until it consolidates until trying the spur. We woke up on Sunday to 40-50 mph winds on 35 degree temps. Blech. We skied down the trail in two feet of thick soup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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