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Somebody rang? yeah trask needs you over at his house later this afternoon!!!

cause wind makes me cold. Duh. What works better are microfiber softshells, stuff like the Marmot Driclime series, Patagonia KruShell, or Golite Bark. Stretchwovens and goretex aren't the only fabrics out there... thx dad!

it costs

i would like to know the direct reason one is sooo concered with wind protection?? and also you claim there is better breathable materials out there?? well since goretex and all coated nylons are more of a farce and only are breathable in the first few months of real use i am wondering what you are talking about??? i betca alot wind blew up your ankles!

The World According To Clint Click here to return to the Article Index -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clint Smith, director of Thunder Ranch, is part drill instructor, part stand-up comic. Here are a few of his observations on tactics, firearms, self defense and life as we know it in the civilized world. Tactics: "So a guy says, ‘I’m good! I move, I shoot, I communicate.’ Yeah, but can you do it on the ground? Because that’s where you’re gonna be in a fight." Gunfights: "It’s real different when the bad guy shoots back. It doesn’t mean you’re going to lose, it just makes the story more interesting afterward." Caution: "The best example of good training is to never get in a fight." Defensive Driving: "If you’re accosted, don’t get out of the car. Put it in some other gear and put both feet on the gas. Clint’s school of driving-add power!" Running Out Of Ammo: "If pointing an empty gun at your opponent makes him duck, you may live for an extra two seconds-and who knows? I may find another gun, the bad guy may give up, or the ammo fairy may drop me a magazine." Target Recognition: "If we’re going down a hall and I see the end of a double barrel shotgun, I better communicate to my partner, ‘cause I can be pretty sure it’s not the Easter bunny on the other end." Marksmanship: "Open up the ground between you and the threat. At arm’s distance, you opponent doesn’t have to be good, he just has to be lucky." Coordination: "It doesn’t do me any good to have a partner and shoot ‘em-although I’ve had some partners I’d like to shoot." Verbal Skills: "You better learn to communicate real well, because when you’re out there on the street, you’ll have to talk to a lot more people than you’ll have to shoot, or at least that’s the way I think it’s supposed to work." Big Bore Sixguns: "...He asked, ‘Did you hit him?’ Hey, I don’t know, but he was smokin’ when he ran outta here." Counting Your Shots: "It’s our experience that in a fight you will continue to shoot the gun until the threat goes away or until the gun is empty." Hesitation: "Don’t be a deer caught in the headlights of the Kenworth of life!" Long Guns Vs. Handguns: "They say you can’t use a rifle or shotgun indoors because a bad guy will grab the barrel. Yeah? Well, he better hang on, ‘cause I’m gonna light him up and it’ll definitely be an "E" ticket ride." Conserving Ammo: "People ask, ‘What do you do if the guy’s on drugs?’ Shoot ‘em! ‘But what if it doesn’t work?’ Shoot ‘em some more!" The Defensive Mindset: "The only reason we would plant our feet is to dig ‘em real good so we can run, ‘cause we’re about to get the hell out of here." The Survival Instinct: "Anyone can understand shooting to protect themselves. You give me five minutes and I’ll make anyone on this planet mad enough to shoot me. The real question is, will they have that much time in a fight? You need to make that decision before you start to fight-only you life depends on it." More: "The handgun would not be my choice of weapon if I knew I was going to a fight. I’d choose a rifle, a shotgun, an RPG or an atomic bomb instead." "The two most important rules in a gunfight are: always cheat and always win." "Every time I teach a class, I discover I don’t know something." "Don’t forget, incoming fire has the right of way." "Make (your attacker) advance through a wall of bullets. I may get killed with my own gun, bet he’s gonna have to beat me to death with it, ‘cause it’s going to be empty." "If you’re not shootin’, you should be loadin’. If you’re not loadin’, you should be movin’. If you’re not movin’, someone’s gonna cut your head off and put it on a stick." "When you reload (in low light encounters), don’t put your flashlight in your back pocket. If you light yourself up, you’ll look like an angel or the tooth fairy - and you’re gonna be one of ‘em pretty soon." "Do something. It may be wrong, but do something." "Nothing adds a little class to a sniper course like a babe in a ghille suit." "Shoot what’s available, as long as it’s available, until something else becomes available." "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That’s ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?" "Don’t shoot fast, shoot good." "You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or use any other word you think will work, but I’ve found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much the universal language." "You have the rest of your life to solve your problems. How long you live depends on how well you do it." "You cannot save the planet. You may be able to save yourself and your family." "(Thunder Ranch) will be here as long as you’ll have us or until someone makes us go away, and either way it’ll be exciting."

The World According To Clint Click here to return to the Article Index -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clint Smith, director of Thunder Ranch, is part drill instructor, part stand-up comic. Here are a few of his observations on tactics, firearms, self defense and life as we know it in the civilized world. Tactics: "So a guy says, ‘I’m good! I move, I shoot, I communicate.’ Yeah, but can you do it on the ground? Because that’s where you’re gonna be in a fight." Gunfights: "It’s real different when the bad guy shoots back. It doesn’t mean you’re going to lose, it just makes the story more interesting afterward." Caution: "The best example of good training is to never get in a fight." Defensive Driving: "If you’re accosted, don’t get out of the car. Put it in some other gear and put both feet on the gas. Clint’s school of driving-add power!" Running Out Of Ammo: "If pointing an empty gun at your opponent makes him duck, you may live for an extra two seconds-and who knows? I may find another gun, the bad guy may give up, or the ammo fairy may drop me a magazine." Target Recognition: "If we’re going down a hall and I see the end of a double barrel shotgun, I better communicate to my partner, ‘cause I can be pretty sure it’s not the Easter bunny on the other end." Marksmanship: "Open up the ground between you and the threat. At arm’s distance, you opponent doesn’t have to be good, he just has to be lucky." Coordination: "It doesn’t do me any good to have a partner and shoot ‘em-although I’ve had some partners I’d like to shoot." Verbal Skills: "You better learn to communicate real well, because when you’re out there on the street, you’ll have to talk to a lot more people than you’ll have to shoot, or at least that’s the way I think it’s supposed to work." Big Bore Sixguns: "...He asked, ‘Did you hit him?’ Hey, I don’t know, but he was smokin’ when he ran outta here." Counting Your Shots: "It’s our experience that in a fight you will continue to shoot the gun until the threat goes away or until the gun is empty." Hesitation: "Don’t be a deer caught in the headlights of the Kenworth of life!" Long Guns Vs. Handguns: "They say you can’t use a rifle or shotgun indoors because a bad guy will grab the barrel. Yeah? Well, he better hang on, ‘cause I’m gonna light him up and it’ll definitely be an "E" ticket ride." Conserving Ammo: "People ask, ‘What do you do if the guy’s on drugs?’ Shoot ‘em! ‘But what if it doesn’t work?’ Shoot ‘em some more!" The Defensive Mindset: "The only reason we would plant our feet is to dig ‘em real good so we can run, ‘cause we’re about to get the hell out of here." The Survival Instinct: "Anyone can understand shooting to protect themselves. You give me five minutes and I’ll make anyone on this planet mad enough to shoot me. The real question is, will they have that much time in a fight? You need to make that decision before you start to fight-only you life depends on it." More: "The handgun would not be my choice of weapon if I knew I was going to a fight. I’d choose a rifle, a shotgun, an RPG or an atomic bomb instead." "The two most important rules in a gunfight are: always cheat and always win." "Every time I teach a class, I discover I don’t know something." "Don’t forget, incoming fire has the right of way." "Make (your attacker) advance through a wall of bullets. I may get killed with my own gun, bet he’s gonna have to beat me to death with it, ‘cause it’s going to be empty." "If you’re not shootin’, you should be loadin’. If you’re not loadin’, you should be movin’. If you’re not movin’, someone’s gonna cut your head off and put it on a stick." "When you reload (in low light encounters), don’t put your flashlight in your back pocket. If you light yourself up, you’ll look like an angel or the tooth fairy - and you’re gonna be one of ‘em pretty soon." "Do something. It may be wrong, but do something." "Nothing adds a little class to a sniper course like a babe in a ghille suit." "Shoot what’s available, as long as it’s available, until something else becomes available." "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. That’s ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?" "Don’t shoot fast, shoot good." "You can say ‘stop’ or ‘alto’ or use any other word you think will work, but I’ve found that a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much the universal language." "You have the rest of your life to solve your problems. How long you live depends on how well you do it." "You cannot save the planet. You may be able to save yourself and your family." "(Thunder Ranch) will be here as long as you’ll have us or until someone makes us go away, and either way it’ll be exciting."

Everyone please give him and his family condolences. All charitable (cash money) should be sent to me to pay out to all of trask's favorite charities. Good Bye Trask. It's been swell! Safe voyage ole boy!

CBS FASHION! FUNCTION! a dont see your point.....my $100+ pants have been used on almost every single climb i have done over the past for years! with nary an issue. i put my knee down all the time, i drag my ass on slabs........i dont have any patches yet! tho the ass is wearing... so i would think that it would be most cost effective to wear $100 pants as opposed to buy what you are describing 5 times......and anyways with my $100+ pants i dont need the extra bulk of rainpants nor do i need to them....... so i see the $100+ pant a pretty darn good option for someone considering a long term/ adventure filled climbing carrer.

aktually bobbyp would own trask like a pack smokes in maximum lock up.......

that is the trask garggles forum 's identical twin right?

there is like 20 other routes in the area!!!!! and the becky route is thw worst one at the pass....should have regrouped and went out and climbed something pimp!

I'll do it on top-rope.

slappy shouldnt it be a dwayner free forum ?

i dont really have time to mod more then i already do!

Unfortunately, there is significant overlap. yeah! they are BOTH FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you know fun is that single compoenent that will make or break a day climbing....funny thing is, it is not required but the days just seem so blah without it!!! so instead of whining about all the shit you cant change in the world why dont you work on something you can! YOUR UNDERWEAR for starters!

well cool! i love to boulder as well as rope climb wether it be sport or trad or aid!! I SAY BRING ON THE ROCK CLIMBING FORUM!! WITH PETER PUGET AS THE MODERATOR!!!

probably cuase your footwork has improved. for some reasons i always find it hard to work on foot work when at the gym..it always seems to be about more power and less technique.

i just got a new patagonia something other uber jacket with the triple thrown down fabric and features...weighs nary a scant!!! anyone wanna buy my arcteryx???

wayne recmo experience. get way blasted.....lay on a blanket with random road chik gurl and smoke doobies whilst listening to radiohead kid A and staring at the desert sky!!!

what kinda things are gonna be discussed in the forum????

IT DOES KINDA LOOK LIKE THAT CHEAP DRUGGED OUT HOOKER YOU HAD LOCKED IN YOUR BASEMENT! I THOUGHT YOU ATE HIM ALREADY???