erik

you mean the chatter creek wall?

kewl i would think all he has to do (save for the washington beaurucratic machine) was to pass a rule for the park stating such that visual impact must be considedered or something?? i wonder if we could get a rider put on the next budget passed by the state legislature?

what was the outcome of the discussion with the park ranger? is he for them? against them? what?

the feathers is the newbie zone for vantage, it is located approx 50 feet from the vantage campground...... tieton is better is you are looking a columnar climbing area.

NOPE BUT YA GOTTA CLIMB!

YEISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

only 12 pabst! for 3 guys! they are some bold dudes!

knowing trask, he has probably allready comsumed it!

now listen up young trask, here are the rulzzz of life!

yeah cuz this is shit on trask's existance DECADE!

drul your robot parents must be sooo proud!

starts down from the notch in a werd looking lay back flake thingy... with some faces moves.....there is a small bush and some steep shite.. wait wait wait..i think i am spraying beta for the n face route!?! !

hadnt been to si in years and last night was quite enjoyable, the temps were a tad warm but very doable... specialed climbed henry barber style as he had a 420 moment and left his klettershue!

TEX HAVE YOU DONE THE ROUTE ALEX IS TALKING ABOUT? I HAVE AND THE CRACK IS A PARALLEL FINGER CRACK THAT STARTS KINDA HANDS AND THEN MOVES INTO FINGERS AND TIGHT FINGERS INTO A LAY BACK INTO 4TH CLASS MOVES. ALIENS FAIL MORE OFTEN AND THAT IS THAT, THEY BOTH HAVE THEIR PLACE BUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN I WOULD RATHER TAKE A FALL ON A TCU THEN AN ALIEN, DURABILTY BEING A HUGE FACTOR IN THE FAILURE OF THE CAM. ALSO I DONT THINK ALEX WAS IN DURESS AT THE TIME OF THE LEAD, ATLEAST HE DID NOT SAY SO.... AND WOULDNT YOU SAY THAT 80% OF THE TIME WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A PLACEMENT IF IT IS BAD? WHY WASTE THE ENERGY FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IS BAD?? FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY? I DUNNO I ATTEMPT TO ONLY MAKE GOOD PLACEMENTS... WHO KNOWS!?

TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i told ya all that those aliens are shitty for free climbing! but nooooooooooo, dont listen to me!!! i mean the last few cam blow out injury happenings involved aliens............. good for aid, not so good for free! least in my sketchy opinion! glad your not hurt alex! that lie back is always a bugger!

oddly enough that is the day one of my good friends was born, the sotry goes he was 7lbs 7oz as well...

i dont claim to be any what ever you were attempting to keyhole me into... for starters oyu have to know your audience and know what they want or what it right or wrong within the group.... so since almost all racist jokes have always been pulled, how does one think another one will be addressed. its called use your brain...i dont give a shit what sisu's views are on life, as i perceive them as limited and some what hate filled. i really dont think high levels of hate are tolerated around here, i for one dont tolerate them.....and i have a feeling that most others here dont......atleast people with reason and sincerity. of course i have limited view of 1930's germany...i was born in 1977 and could never experience the vile filth of intolerance and hate that grew there........ and i never claimed i was, never claimed i will be and never claimed i wanted not to be... whats your point greg other then justifying more intolerance and hate towards others....seems silly........ and i still cant get over the fact that since this country is root in differences and learinng to understand them and melt with them that this joke is/was or ever will be humorous except for the ignorant few...........

one shouldnt be stuck up about peaks they dont climb...all peaks are climbers domain and where does it stop?? only on volcanos? or does it go all the way to even our beloveded granite crags...bitching about it and then throwing it away only shows shortsightedness from one.!?!? who knows i never got one, apprently i am not cool enough!

matt are you meaning to say that within alpine climbing there is adventure and one might have to venture out beyong their preconceived ideas and challenge themselves?? weird!

whats the point in being intolerant to others lifestyles or beliefs? it doest affect your life in any way, so why mouth off about it making one look like an ignorant asshole? ALL YOUR HATE SHIT IS SO PLAYED OUT AND IS LIKE 1930'S GERMANY. WHAT A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!

I THINK INSTEAD OF THROWING IT IN THE TRASH ONE SHOULD PUT THEIR COMMENTS ON IT AND VOICE WHAT THEY THINK. I MEAN THESE THINGS ARE SOO LIMITED, ONE SHOULD SHUN IT AND TELL THEM THE TRUTH, MAYBE IT WONT GET REAR MAYBE IT WILL....BUT NEVER THE LESS ONE MORE CHANCE TO BITCH ABOUT THE FUCKED STATE OF BEING CALL THE "DEFORREST SERVICE" I WISH I GOT ONE!