erik

mtngrll and all others.... the master key for cars is not true....maybe back in the old daze....but now with all the electrnic thingy magigs and stuff....it aint true.. now they might have a radio transciever that scan and puts out frequencies that will unlock all that keyless crap people have going on with their hooptys....... buy a chevy near theft proof..... subarus are very easy to get into....and now more and more with all th hype with over priced gear and shit....subies make an easy highly profitable target...specailly when all your gear is in one bag...all they gotta do is grab and go.... another reason why gear stickers on your car are a bad idea......

this sounz generic....but it all depends....i got a ropes at lotsa lengths.......felxabilty is the key...... also consider possible rappels either on route or on descent..... though i am inclinded to sport a 50m most times in the mtns....give you more rap anochors...and when that is case remember to bring your buddies rope...

quote: Originally posted by chucK: What do you think? well you really want to know what i think???? wow!!!!! well i am an alpinist(and a fat one at that), so my objective is to obtain the summit in as effiecent and safe way possible....granted i try not to pull on gear.........but if there is a hold on the rock, i am using it......why not......???? i mean when was the last time you looked at anything and thought to yourself: "man, i will take the hardest way" granted to cragging is to practice your technique and to get strong, so if you have a problem with using "off" routes holds, then by all means don't.....but if you harp on me about it.....well i am from tacoma....

quote: Originally posted by moonchild: PS. You mean there are actually other climbers down south here!?!?!? sheeit the best climbers live in pierce county!!!!! always have always will........

taken from jacksonhole.com Snow Depth:81" at the Summit and 72" Mid-Mountain Total Snowfall:over 395" at the Summit and 300" Mid-Mountain taken from summit@snoq.com alpental summit 206" and base 141" i dunno does anyone in jackson know what snow is???? probably the same answer as your question...... have fun and be safe...... washington is by far the absolute best state in the usa....dont forget that kidz...............

i think iceice and freeclimb should be partners..... "you tied my knot right?""no, you tied mine right?""no" "well shit, who tied it?""i don't remember""but someone did, cause i remember that one time when it was -40 out, there was a knot tied""well shit, that was back in '43!""what happens if they knot that isnt tied fails?""well will find someone to blame!! cuz it can't be us!!!""we knew how to tie the knot!!""and we knew that the know was untied, but still it can't be our fault..."

quote: Originally posted by specialed: Sad bro, sad. Good thing or I'd have to laugh at your ass when I saw you at the crag. ed dont laugh too hard you might spill your beer, hey arent you still belaying me......

that really sux.....if i see them this weekend i will return yur gear to you with their head....

i think it would be really cool of the companies and competitors to give their contributions and winnigs to charites throughout the puget sound....i mean b/c skiing is not a sport for the less fortunate, so i would think it would be awesome of everyone to donte their stuff to groups who help others....like th boys and girls club, ymca, ywca and other similar groups..... what do you think mister Life Link rep, that woud show people that climbers and skiers are really good caring people..........

quote: Originally posted by pindude: Or some boarding school-aged newby climber at a shop on your side of the pond who passed himself off to you as a credible representative of Yvon? "Transcend the Bullshit" federal way is in england???? luke follow me to the dark side...enter the mega store show your dark side by climbing seattles giant schlonger......... i dont think pp lives in merry ole' england.. [ 03-26-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

quote: Originally posted by rayborbon: Just word in. FB might be there after nine but he is not sure about times. Sez he has prior arrangements at 7ish in another pub. I think he might show... lez get diz paaaty staated!!!!

quote: Originally posted by W: Most of the classics have good bolts and chains. yes we should all thank the good people at washington mountain alliance for all their hardwork and effort in replacing the old fixed gear!!!!!!! there is still plenty of work to be done, i say spend a day (if you know how) makineg everyone's favorite crag better for all...!!!

okay freeclimb, could you please embelish on your statement of a kevlar fixed line failing on an expediation....i would like know as personal knowledge to myself, cus one the best ways to learn is from others mistakes.... and also i have tracked your side steps to every response to your statements......do you work for the church down there or the good state of utah????

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Anyone ever doen Gold Bar Girls or Claus Von Bewlow? Haven't heard much about them so my guess is they are dirty. GOLD BAR IS A FUN ROUTE AND IT IS SLIGHTLY DIRTY, THE MOVE FROM THE BELAY LEDGE TO THE FLAKES IS QUITE HAIRY........THE UPPER STUFF IS A BUT SKETCHY, BUT ISNT THAT PART OF THE FUN?!?!?!!?!?!? WANT TO TRY KLAUS HERE SOON........

IS THAT WHAT HAPPEND??? DOUBT IT!!!! COME MAN USE SOME COMMON SENSE, IF YOU DONT HAVE SPARE GLOVES, THEN THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM AND IF YOU WERE USING THE DRY TOOL GLOVES IN -40 TEMPS, I AM SURE OYU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS THEN YOUR GLOVES, LIKE GETTING OUT OF BED......SHEEIT...... LIKE I SAID BEFORE ~YAWN~

5.6- GREAT NORTHERN SLAB5.7- ARE THERE ANY??5.8- LIZARD ROUTE, PRINCLEY AMBITIONS, 1ST HALF OF TOXIC SHOCK5.9- GODZILLA, THEM, 2ND PART TOXIC SHOCK, G/M ROUTE5.10- SAGITARIUS, LIBRA CRACK, DAVIS HOLLAND/LOVIN ARMS, HEART OF COUNTRY, DR SNIFF & THE TUNA BOATERS..... MY MIND IS DRAWING A BLANK......

gawd i wish wild things made gloves.........

NERI you make no sense, will said nothing other then what others have said.... and of all the people i know who have the dry tool glove, you are the first to have a complaint..... sheesh east coasters

quote: Originally posted by IceIceBaby: I said/wrote and you have the option to agree or disagree with me so till you have a better thing to say you can kiss my I HAVE MY OPINION AND I WANT TO RANT AND RAVE ABOUT, GRANTED I PROVIDE THAT I GIVE NO SUPPORTING EVIDENCE TO WHY THE GLOVES DID NOT MEET MY EXPECTATIONS....MY RANT IS RANDOM AND TRULY SHOWS NO POINT...AND IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THEN YOU ARE WRONG.... did anyone else read this into mr iceicebabies crying?????

quote: Originally posted by EV: Go to REI, buy a new pair, keep the receipt, take your damaged pair back a week later for a refund. I've had great luck with BD's CS department. technically that is theft if you did not buy the product there......just go though the normal channels......... and yes BD's cs dept is quite good

~YAWN~ too bad man, that your shit aint what you wanted it to be........ i think we need to start a campagin against ford, chevrolet, mopar, honda, toyota, nissan, sony, panasonic, firestone, goodyear, dell, intel, m.s., marmot, arcteryx and ant other company in the world whom does not create perfection for the start.............. im going back to rubbing mud ans grass on my body, all these damn clothes just dont last anymore, where's my buckskin loin cloth, that thing never needs washing or any maitence at all..... neri, your arguement is kinda like what i would call stupid.......no offense, but seriously man, every complany in the world sux in one way or another... granted their pricing is high, but like you said you bought, i dont think they are brain washing anyone.....seeing kim cizma(sp) dry tooling with the dry tools gloves did not send me out to buy them....that is your weakness. and your job as a consumer is to go out and find what YOU think will work best for YOU....it is hit and miss in all markets...... have fun

matt, i actally have metoulis and aliens for doubles below .5", cause they do rock!!!!!

actually i am in a great mood, other then being at work........

i think if the reason you are getting down on BD cams is cause of their weight, then ummmmm i dont know what to tell you.........cuz i have yet come to find a situation to where i think that, "shit man this damn 1" cam wieghs 12g more then a similar peice, i better not bring it....might slow me down too much and i will die in the forcasted storm...." then if you think that the quality is crappy, then i dont know what to tell you.......granted with time the triggers wires break, but shit dont they all????? now what i got to say about bd cams, is that of all the pieces ihave used and owned i have never never ever found a cam equal to it.....with trigger action, durability, ease of cleaning and the ability to just go right in coupled with a stem length that is long enough. most people will never notice the difference in expansion range or weight of the cams, unless they are sitting around trying to find a reason that they think they suck.......and in that case they probably dont spend enough time climbing or taking care of other needs in their life.... i have yet hear an arguement to wear another cam is better, maybe close to as good, but never better...... the only detraction that i could even consider being bad would be the cost, but there are ways to overcome that.................. Black Diamond cams are the BEST!!!!! plus they are made in america, by americans..... [ 03-25-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

good show ole boy, thought the vikings got the best of you!!!!!!! glad to see you got the best of them!!!!