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i betca they don't even go as far south as tukwila.

how did i put my foot in my mouth? i do not regret what i typed and i still think the same thing. roger, never stated that they were idiots. i just personally feel that we can control more things then one believes but your awareness must be tuned. one is solely responsible to for their own actions at times like when climbing there is an understood trust between partners that no matter what climbing is 50/50. a good climber can and should reconize objective hazrds as best as they can, no matter if it is a runout, shitty gear, bad rock or whatever....grated this is not always possible, but we as individuals must try our hardest. i do not want to die and i certainly do not want to die climbing, so i personally take care in all situations to be as safe as possible. please seem my other postings on the subject.

for not caring about others who have died. it is tragic, but not enough for me to feel emotional over it. i do not see the point in grandstanding with our emotions over something like this. i have had a few friends die and a few family members pass it was sad, but i do not see how allowing these things in which i have no control over to rule my life? someone in that accident did make a mistake. i dont know what it is and most likely never will know. but i have every right to think about it and pass conjecture over what i see as possbile errors on their part. and to answer radon's question about who somethings just are not in our control. you are right, but i do not live my life in the closet afraid of the what i cannot control. hate me whatever...

so i am not allowed to post what i feel or think? that is dumb. this seems to be personal error on one or the others part. thats too bad. we can always work harder to protect ourselves and others. i do not pity the dead.

prolly true maybe i overstepped my right to comment. but i still little if anything can be gained from this other then a personal reminder to check and double check, protect your belay and all that...ask anyone who climbs with me if i am safe. i still see no point in fretting over an anomymous person dying....it is tragic but affects my life zero. it sux to see and hear people die, but why dwell on it and allow it to control your life. climbing has its inhertant risks and we as individual climbers are required to understand and accept those risks.

look in the brown becky book it is south of randle

from what i gather they were above their heads and not using them. made one mistake and oops all are dead. thats to obad, but i still cannot see a lesson here that anyone with any sense does not already know.

$33K IS NOT A LIVING WAGE? I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE BACK WHEN I PAID TO LIVE...I MADE LESS THEN THAT AND LIVED A GRAND LIFE. HAD ALL THE TOYS I WANTED, A NEW TRUCK ALWAYS HAD A SATCHEL AND NEVER FRETED MONEY ONCE. I CANNOT SEE HOW $33K IS NOT A LIVING WAGE. YOU GET HALF THE YEAR OFF. WHY SHOULD ONE BE COMPENSTATED FOR NOT WORKING? I HAVE PEOPLE TELL ME I AM AN ASSHOLE, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HARM ME, THAT THEY HATE ME, I;VE RUINED THEIR LIVES AND I DO NOT MAKE THAT KIND OF MONEY FOR THE ABUSE I GET. I NEVER ONCE HAD A TEACHER INSPIRE ME TO GO THE DISTANCE, TO EXPERIENCE LIFE OR ANY OF THAT SHIT. I WENT CUZ I HAD TO AND IT IS REQUIRED TO FURTHER YOUR LIFE. TEACHERS AND THE PEOPLE WHO SURROUND THEM I THINK PUT TOO MUCH STOCK IN THEIR JOBS NOW A DAYS. IT IS A JOB GET OVER IT.

i am sure it does, everyone has heard stories from their younger sisters!!!

what if we made an rv campground at the top of cascade pass? i bet the nps would be down for that! think of the revenue!

careul guys the tool watches this site. and they will come back with some stupid enviromental statement on how if everyone made the thrails they wanted then who knows how fucked up the area could get it. tho i see it as they read the "roolz" like cops and hot humans. they build the trails for the horses and that is why there are 49759023457475 0 switch backs. but guess what fuck the horses, they national park land was set aside for humans to enjoy not some beast of burden to shit all over and spread noxious weeds. the national park service should listen to the people who enjoy, care for and use the park not the moronic enviomental b.s. on the rapid ecceleration of soil eorsion due to "renegade" trails. but since they are too busy being cops in the wilderness they will not listen or care what the actual owners of the land have to say.

well where is your irish wankstain gaygowens? isnt that commonwealth'er always the life of the party? and cbs just for startin this thread!

peach!

crayons were for drawing and coloring? sheesh and i thought they were just candy!

again you are welcome.

no, you are both welcome.

I LIKE IT..WALKING AROUND IN MY SANDALS THE FEET ARE WET, YET THE WATER IS SO WARM. 'BOUT THIS TIME I WISH I HAD A WW KAYAK!! snow would be nice, but i still think i would rather have warm rock!

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no it is jesus crying for rush and kobe...........

think what you want ole chap!!!! and i don't hide myself!! and mister passive agressive why don't ya speak up when the time has come? instead of wanking about it later?

dfa i think your sales are down cuz of your grumpy look on your face all weekend...whats tha matter???? i was going to approach and say "high" but i then remembered the restraining order!

sweet climb too despite the squealing yes it is....the route to the right of it that also goes thru the roof is sweet too!

I THOUGHT THAT WAS NECRO'S WIFE WITH THE WEEKLY CATCH!

TERROR= GIRLISH SQUEEL AND THE CRY OF "TAKE!! TAKE!! TAKE!!" WE ALL SAW YOU SLIP THAT 'PON IN AND FINNISH OUT THE CLIMB!