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quote: Originally posted by Coondog: and at the wiz-quiz you tell them you eat a lot of poppy-seed muffins/bagels. Poppy Seeds can give you a false positive for Heroin use (it being made from Opium poppies)- don't know about Goldenseal.

quote: Originally posted by freeclimb9: The California election sure is depressing, too. I've read it described as "the evil of two lessers": Davis and Simons. It's worse than the lesser of two evils - and there's not even a quasi-reasonable third party canidate available.

Given the harassment the Giant Black Sea Bass are getting down there from moron spearo's (as a s a species recovering from the brink they're illegal to take - and are more likely to be mistaken for a boulder than fish) I can't with a straight face say people are particularly conservation minded in SoCal. That said this is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard of. FOREVER?!

quote: Originally posted by Swedish Chef: Is the "Medicine for Mountaineering and other wilderness..." from the Mountaineers any good? (I know that there are quite mixed feelings for the Mounties - an organisation which I know absolutely nothing about. I can only say that "Extreme Alpinism" and Freedom of the Hills are damn good books in my opinion). Medicine for Moutaineering is a very good introductory wilderness medicine text - if your looking for more information than it provides, it's best to take a class. As for the Mountaineers, the books division is seperate from the bulk of the club - it's not the same beast & is probably the biggest US publisher of climbing books. Carl

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: At the Dinner Party where Don Giovanni meets his fiery end he is dragged down to hell by a statue come to life.

DFA- Are you the statue who will come to life?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Who? Judging by his previous post, me. Maybe I'll get dragged down to hell!

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: The "Old" or the only? I never looked at the publisher... Since the last edition came out in '79 they're old. And they're also the only.

quote: Originally posted by iain: so are there scary people in rochester? dude I get the idea! No more beers at lunch for me......

WTF! [ 10-21-2002, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

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quote: Originally posted by iain: no I just found the pic on the internet, sorry. Don't be - because those are the least frightening people you'd see on the slopes out there.

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: I dont know what you are talking about. I am not talking about alpine journals.... The old Rocky Mountains of Canada - South & Rocky Mountains of Canada - North guidebooks were published by the American Alpine Club & The Alpine Club of Canada

iain - Your not from the Rochester area originally, are you? [ 10-21-2002, 02:12 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

quote: Originally posted by STORER: Hey Carl, We're going to hike in from Marcy dam, assend the back side of Marcy, then desend the front side. We can't wait! I assended Alconquin last December and got my a$$ kicked by 60+ mph winds and blowing snow. It looked like a scene from Everest except we were at slightly lower elevation Algonquin was strange above tree line; we would be climbing on hard ice then 20 feet later we would be in thigh deep powder. What have you climbed in the Adirondacks? What's Avalanche pass like in the winter? Steve Sounds nice - most of my daks winter has been ice climbing. Couple of years ago I climbed Algonquin Tahnksgiving weekend though your right it's a strange experience and the wind is brutal. Avalanche Pass is very cool in the winter - and it's a lot easier to navigate when the lake's frozen. Climb I was always looking forward to was NF Gothics (& Pharoah Mt) but I was never up there when it was in condition. 1000' of Ice would be nice. Carl

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Check out the ole Can Rockies books as a comparison. I dont mean the select one either. You not talking about the AAC/ACC guides are you? Because there ain't a comparison.....

quote: Originally posted by STORER: Nice view! When I climbed Mt. Washington we were lucky to see 20 feet. I'm going to climb Mt. Marcy this December. We're hoping for a lot of snow. Steve With the way the wind blows up there I doubt you'll see much snow above treeline. But it should be alot of fun! Are you planning to head in from Marcy Dam, Johns Brook, or Panther Gorge? Carl [ 10-20-2002, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

Not to long until Tucks is in fine condition.....

quote: Originally posted by bellemontagne: 1) The performance of different shell materials like Gore Dryloft, Mountain Hardware's Conduit SL, and MEC's F.O.H20 laminate shell. My experience with MH's Conduit SL has been nothing short of horrible. It's neither waterproof, nor breathable - which would be alright if they dropped the price on their stuff. Avoid it like the clap. Carl

quote: Originally posted by Pencil Pusher: I would think people in the medical profession's pay is directly related to their education and/or training. Exponentially so.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: I bet it cause they havent shipped yet. ANAM 2002 has been outfor months but AAJ 2002 not yet. I bet it is late this year cause it the first year with John Harlin III as editor after the AAJ Putsch where Beckwith was dumped in a bloody coup. Publication date for the journal is September 2002 on Amazon.com - ships in 1-2 days. Publication date on Bn.com is August 2002 - ships in 3-4 days. Publication date on buy.com is 9/1/2002 - ships in 24-48 hours.

quote: Originally posted by iammo: I assume you will receive your journal (not Accidents) before it is in stores. The AAC is a business like any other and they can't sit on one finished book just because the other is not ready. I'm willing to give them a break, they're a small outfit, and nice folks. However, Amazon.com has listed the '02 journal as in stock & shipping in 1-2 days for several weeks now. Carl

quote: Originally posted by iammo: Is that the only reason that you joined the AAC, to get the journals? The biggest climber advocacy group in the nation doesn't need your money then, with an attitude like that. I'd be careful about calling the AAC the "biggest climber advocacy group" in the nation - the access fund (no longer part of the AAC) does much more for climbing than the AAC's watered down statements and caving, especially at a local level. I agree with Ryland that members should receive the journal before, or close to the time stores do - it is after all, supposed to be a journal for the members of activities in the mountaineering world. As you can tell - I haven't received mine. [ 10-16-2002, 07:02 PM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

It's being published by The Overlook Press http://www.overlookpress.com/ - who seem to have bought the English rights to Daumal as they are also re-releasing "After a Night of Serious Drinking". Not that their website shows any of this..... Carl [ 10-16-2002, 12:55 AM: Message edited by: cj001f ]

Climbers Guide to the High Sierra Lists 3 different routes in the valley (up to 1,400 ft) all done after the dam - I've heard Galen Rowell's name attached to one or another of them, but I can't remember where I saw that. I was just there on Sunday - I'm not really sure how much the dam has impaired climbing (and if you could boat it probably wouldn't at all) - it'd take off at most a pitch or so, if you take into account the height of the talus. That said, I'm more than a little sick of San Francisco's (and the rest of the fucking Bay Area) hypocritical bullshit with regards to this. Were all for inconveniencing everyone else in the world regards to the environment, but when it comes to us, no way we'll even look at doing anything differently. They should at least consider alternatives.