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I'm not going to be able to see the movie, but I'll drop by the Blue Moon at 6ish..

Lucky SOB

That would be Mu-Mu's Big World Diner. Of course if your feeling ritzy there's "Bartini" next to trader joe's, or Zinc, that makes the strongest Manhattan I've ever had. Yowzas!

You go BC in T-Races? Your last name Gronvold? Or do you just have a serious tolerance for pain? As for the majority of telemark skiiers - you talking about the telemarktips crowd? From what I can tell, a majority of them ski more at resorts than BC. Agressiveness is in your head, not whats on your feet.

The statistic is those caught by avalanche's are more likely to be experienced in their sport, but only have some, or no avalanche training. This says nothing about taking an avalanche class putting you at greater risk.

I don't know. Call the Escape Route. Honestly you'd have to be pretty bored to climb there - it's about as tall as it is wide.

He's definitely not imposing it on others:

That's the point for you - it's what you've chosen. Like most zealots, you fail to comprehend that others have a different view, different needs, and different capabilities. Many find the impossible to daunting to comprehend, and instead focus on the immediate.

I'm so glad the world has you to look after it Scott The comfort it brings to people in need, both inherently, and from the community the devoted tend to develop, is one of the few positive aspects I can think of in organized religions. I somehow think you're searching for a much deeper religion than much of the world is capable of grasping - and a majority of Christians have ever been able to comprehend.

Scott- People don't try to find solace, they do. Organized religions are creations of man - arguing about perversions, superiority, original intent, etc. is absurd to me.

Yes. Was looking nice on Sunday.

Scott- Spend some time around the dying (the old, the sickly, the infirm) and you'll see the solace that religion brings to people before their end - and to those who are left behind. It's amazing religion's ability to bring peace.

The person next to you, who reachs across you, to poke the person on the other side for snoring. When the snoring person is a pregnant woman. People who get ticked when you want to leave an economy class window seat more than twice on a trans-oceanic flight.

The Wasatch Touring kits do look like nice - and they also feature dial stem thermometers, which are easier to use, and more durable than alcohol therms for snowpack reading.

Here's what they say: "Many back country users have a solid and basic foundation on how to use an avalanche transceiver. How about multiple burials or the latest digital and analog beacon technology? Are you sure? A must for anyone who explores the backcounry. Basic knowledge of transceivers recommended. Snowboarders welcome" New is good. I'm interested in hearing if they have any new strategies - things that hasn't been published (several of the topics you covered are available as PDF's on the BCAccess website http://www.bcaccess.com/techlibrary/tech_reports.php) - others are available elsewhere on the web If they do I'd be very interested in hearing them - and consider the course well worth it. $85 to play with beacons isn't to me.

Some friends, some beer (as a prize) and a stopwatch. All the feedback I need. There's such a thing as overanalyzing things....

Size 'em so you have plenty of adjustment range. I cut mine too long at first, and they stretched too much in the warmth of spring. Mine were pre-riveted. If they weren't I'd juse a vise & hammer.

Unless you are paying the full cost of that health plan(highly unlikely that your employer pays nothing for dependants/spouse) you're receving more benefits than the single person - your employer has just chosen to subsidize families of employees less than employees.

I guess I'm out of line thinking that $85 is alot to spend to practice outside with beacons when you can the same $ and have the gear to do it yourself whenever & wherever. Oh well...

Skin closer to the light....

Skip- I was advocating instead of taking a class - spending about the same amount of money and purchasing a transmit only beacon, or a used beacon (about $60-$80), so you can practice regularly. Regular practice breeds speed. That's what I've done. If your search times are under 2 minutes for single victims, a couple more for multiples - shoveling will probably take up a greater percentage of your rescue time. Here's an interesting study on rescue time (shoot for a total recovery time of under 18 minutes - per http://users.south-tyrolean.net/avalanche/pdf/Guidelines_2002.pdf ) I'd be very curious to see what their tips are for multiple searches. More knowledge is good.

You'd pay $85 to demo beacons?!!! They are invaluable safety equipment, but comeon..... you can buy an avy transmitter for less than that and practice every day!

Since I don't seem to see a syllabus on their website, what's covered in "Advanced Transceiver" searching?

The cuff helps some - it's the buckles that made the most difference for me. When I get out in the Snowfields it's...interesting. I'm humbled very quick. Particularly with a pack. I guess I sort of miss the point of plastic boot tele skiing (particularly beefy one's like T1's & T-R). They're more pain to ski up hill with, they're so stiff they're a pain to tele turn with (at anything sub mach). Even the shorter boots, like T2's & T3's have a "notchy" feel. If your going to alpine ski - Alpine Ski! At 26 I'm already out of touch....

I do all of the above, and haul sleds on Supercomps. (plastic cuff, leather lowers). They pturn fine - carve at speed, and rock. And have a hell of alot more feedback than plastic.