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The IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) has 780,000 members. The IEEE (EE prof association) has 360,00 members. A unionized workforce is less flexible than a nonunion workforce - less firing, and less hiring.

Criminals that get caught are for the most part dumb. That's why they get caught. How exactly is someone sentanced to life w/o parole going to get out?

You going to spend 6 weeks in Patagonia in a snowcave then?

I miss what we gained by executing a bunch of sick, twisted psychopaths.

Are you going to decide what's best? That's what these arguments are all about...

That don't call it the dog route for no reason!

Try these people. Just ask for one pre "raining" http://www.rainbarrelsandmore.com/ Some canyoneers have started using barrels instead of drybags because things don't get crushed. Same reason why pack baskets are still somewhat popular canoeing http://www.imlaygear.com/kegs.htm

Not that long ago I put up "Fry Mumia" posters

You driving an Element now?

Treason, and other political crimes are a different matter from murder, rape, etc.

A life of captivity would be infinitely worse to me than death.

Dan's dog here. I guess it's time I come clean. Peter Alexander doesn't really exist. Neither does Pierce. Or Jen. I have been posting all of this. I know what your saying, how can a dog type. WELL FUCK YOU DOGS CAN TYPE. You can say or do whatever you want but you can't prove dogs can't type. Anyways you are all probably wondering why I did all of this. Basically I'm not an outdoor dog, I like watching TV and drinking from the toilet. I got sick and tired of Dan waking me up in the morning and taking me for these stupid training runs. I don't know if Dan climbed the mountain or not but he did leave me in the fucking car with the windows rolled up. Bastard. Fido -

buy.com has it for under $20 http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=40242007&loc=107&sp=1

Hell Hath Frozen Over! Quick to the Gorge Ice!

I'm neither. Busy I watched the Union Electrician indoctrinate his apprentice in the joys of "breaks" while they did work at our plant

Dru- As your an expert on Engineers, I defer

Try a market distortion caused by the very effective Electricians union.

It's alright if a President lies, just not about interns?

Since when are state prisoners not part of the local economy? They have family's to support - and this can be one of the greatest hardships of a relative going to prison. Yeah there lot's of cases of unfair competition form prison labor (Yosemite Valley RR vs. the Prison Labor Built El Portal road) If you'd read about the plan you'd know that Labor Wages were lower at the Prison, but overall business cost wasn't much different - increased security, etc. As for Shapp's rant - there's something wrong in this country when the average Electrian makes more than the average Electrical Engineer.

So I'm hallucinating the 100 black flies I killed on the Challenger approach? Or the cloud of mosquitos in the Oly's?

Judging by the heavy layer of dust covering all the construction equipment in the picture (and the vertical tanks turned horizontal) I'd say not much of anything's being done at that site.

A mirror might be advisable there Beck

Marylou's obviously a fan of a permanent prison underclass in the US.

If it's not raining leave the tarp off - that's the attraction, a roomy shelter with bug protection and excellent ventilation w/ fly off. 2lbs for the Bug isn't light, but at 3.5 total w/tarp, it's not bad - and roomier than the clip flashlight.

Dry your gear before you put it away. Hang it up in the sunshine.