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Speaking of which I've got $100 riding on Osama getting named before November. An extra $100 if he gets found within 3 weeks of the election!

Stolen? When the Seller has feedback like this: "Fraudulent 3rd party auction; said motorcycle drives; it doesn't." Say it ain't so!

www.kbb.com (Kelly Blue Book Online)

I didn't mean to criticize, or get people defensive - was just curious. PUHA!

20+ Pitch Routes w/o bushwacking or choss. Have you considered moving to California?

If you've got 42 MR people on scene I hope some of them can ski......

That's kind of what I guessed. Dumping someone would be very poor form. An extra week or so of training to ensure this doesn't happen probably isn't the best use of resources either. You can get fit a Cascade 200 litter w/AL handles, fins, etc. but that's probably 3x the weight of the TI jobbies. A 2 handled litter would be just about perfect.

No, but the underlying them of this thread was Islam bashing (HarryPi, SailBOWhy?) and they're Islamic.

Indonesia (the largest Islamic nation in the world)

Do MR people ever use ski patrol toboggans to evacuate people? They'd work quite well on the South Side...

Violence and warfare have been going on longer in the Christian world - by 600 or so years This isn't exactly the first civil war in the Sudan.

What a masterful obliviousness to the facts you display SailBOI. The current problems between the Palestinians and Israel stem directly from the formation of Israel (by definition!) Libya's over 500 miles from Israel.

Ouch! That sucks!

Then I nominate the Voge & Smatko - Mountaineer's Guide to the High Sierra, where Smatko tossed in all of the little warts he claimed an FA off

And what would be the cause of that? Confiscation of private property for the foundation of state.....

How cool is that? Futuristic thinking frequently comes from the wisdom of a previous generation. He also lists Cenotaph Corner under expeditions

I liked the simple aim of this Overland Expedition

Fairweather- Your Kyoto link doesn't show squat. We have 2,500 Climate Scientists vs. 15,000 "scientists" only whose degrees are listed, not their specialty, represented by a group chartered to do "conduct basic and applied research in subjects immediately applicable to im­provements in human life — including biochemistry, diagnos­tic medicine, nutrition, preventive medicine, and aging". This is Michael Moore quality grandstanding.

So explain to us all how the gold standard would solve all our problems? And that the Fed is to blame for bankruptcy and not deficit spending?

As opposed to the administration of multimillionaire corporate cronies and hangers on?

I'll admit that this is politically motivated - but I do think it is better to have the Legislature (whatever their flavour) appoint a successor than the Governor, lest we get Alaskan size embarrasments like the Murkowski's, a subversion of democracy if I've ever seen one.

Strom Thurmond had his aids attend his committee assignments for the last 4 years of his term.

Rent "The Fog Of War" instead.

JayB- I agree with you that we need a President who is business friendly. Unfortunately or current President is "business" friendly the same way a drug dealer is "people" friendly. Too much emphasis on dead/dying/low growth industries, and not enough on the future of the developed world - high growth, high knowledge industries. To Whit: - Steel Tariffs to product a no growth, low value industry at the expense of higher value manufacturing jobs - Softwood Tariffs to "protect" lumber jobs while actually harming them - Increased Oil Drilling in Utah, protection of the right for Oil Drilling in California, ban in Florida because Jeb's Gov -Stemcell ban to hamper US biotech - Squandering US education resources on the absurd, unfunded standarized test regime that is the No Child Left Behind Act We need a President who will streamline government for business, and help them for the future (import/export law streamlining, customs clearance, international money transport, enviro regs, education funding, etc.) Not a Prez who spends his time courting dead industries for political gain.

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