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P is for Protect I recommend walking it off, which is my new motto in the clinc. "Walk it Off Spinal Rehabilitation"

Nice jorb! WEAK!!!!

Sounds more like an accident than any screwy biomechanical dysfunction. do the ol' P.R.I.C.E. and maybe wear a chopat when you're doing high risk knee activities. sorry i'm sure you wanted something more. and it's Dr. Layton -

The reflex to test spinal cord damage via the rectum is called the "anal wink". I always chuckleuncontrollably when I hear that. Anal Wink...bwhahahahah

Your tibialis anterior is working too hard to eccentrically contact on the impact phase of your gait cycle most likely. Perhaps you need a heel lift or work on your stride legnth. It could be weak too - try putting a dumbell over your toes and do foot lifts.

It's a white and sunny Christmas morning here in SLC. Over the past week including last night's dumpage, we've got a shit-ton of pow-pow. If any of you need a place to crash on your way through to ski or climb (or need a chiropractic adjustment) I've got a nice condo in Sugarhouse with room for a few folks. It's way better than bivying just N. of Snowville, UT like I used to do! I'm working in a nice clinic in Sandy and will be running my own clinic in a month or two in Mill Creek right next to Black Diamond. michael_layton AT hawmAle dawt calm five o three six 7 nine forty four hundred oh, and to stem the flow - stairway is kinda in. there's now a utah ice conditions page: http://iceclimbingutah.com/

I grew up in Utah, where a common practice for young women that wanted to "save" themselves for marriage in the temple was to take in the ass instead. Somehow, I don't see the rational, but I guess they were still virgins, on paper anyway. Still seems like pre mariatal sex to me. SWEEEEET!

I'll miss y'all. Sorry I did't get a chance to say bye Pandora n' Alpinfox! Come visit. I'm leaving monday.

Orthopedic tests don't mean much unless you break the structure you're testing and have a surgical suite handy. It is probably the plica with inflammation - but you'll never know without the magic picture! rehab'll be the same

Yo! It's all gonna be guesswork unless you get an xray and MRI. Then again, knee rehab is pretty much the same for most conditions! RICE it, Strengthen your VMO and adductors, stretch your hams and adductors. Check your gait, hips, and spine for biomechanical imbalances. Knees are weak links and indicators of problems elsewhere, so if nothing's actualy done broke inside your knee bones and whatnot, it's probably something structural elsewhere, or something your doing wrong in your exercises.

Moira, Prolotherapy is either done by MDs or Naturopaths. Before singing up, see how many the doctor does a year. Also, see what they are injecting. Naturopaths are gonna use more herbal-based and MDs will use more pharm based solutes and solvents. The most common is just water and sugar. The purpose of prolotherapy is to create a controlled amount of inflammation in the joint to promote the formation of scar tissue in hypERmobile joints. A radiograph of the joint in closed packed position and then stressed (like a flexion extension study) should indicate the hypermobility. Most of the time, the doctor is just "guessing" whether it's hypermobile or not - usually a joint that does not respond to repeated (a few months) manipulative therapy. One problem with the treatment is the joint wasn't hypermobile, and the other is that it indeed was, but now you've overdone it and it needs to be loosed up...just enough, to get back to stability. Very successful in SI joints, Wrists, and Shoulders. If I were you I'd shop around between MDs and NDs. If you want the best possible reccomendation, see Dr. David Musnick in Bellvue, WA. He is also the author of Conditioning for Outdoor Fitness by the mountaineers press. And of course tell him I sent you.

rumor has it, Erik was the foul farter

wow, I got really really wasted. so many embarassing little memory snipetts good times!

Ok folks, the Zoo on Eastlake at 8pm!

and is it cheap and roomy (like your mom)

donde esta zoo tavern?

that's what I'm sayin

no shit. I have no clue where we're meeting or not. Dante's 8 still stands and I'll post if it changes.

can credibility points dive into negative numbers? i don't know.... the aaj is fairly credible, as far as alpinism goes. cheers! I meant Kevbone's credibility dumbass

So we're probably not going to Dante's. We'll decide last minute so it's totally annoying. Seems people here actually care about the atmosphere at their location...which is pretty gay.

can credibility points dive into negative numbers?

jesus, like I'm going to pull out all the research citations too appease a thread on a climbing website.

Don't listen to these guys. Chondroitin and Glucosamine have both been shown to be equally clinically effective in doses of 1200 and 1500 mg respectively. Take the sulfate not the HCL, however. MSM, etc... is just bonus material, focus on high grade Chondroitin of Glucosamine Sulfate.

Naw, thursday's overrated anyways

Kat, the whole reason we're not going thursday night is because of you stupid.