AlpineK

Go get em!

Bummer. I'm sure it's only a little set back though!

Fuck off Dave. I left extra money for his share. Besides all he had was 2 pepsi's. Also as a person who has walked out on their own tab, let alone tip, many times maybe you should keep your mouth shut.

I found this on a Google search. It's the text of some Senate hearing. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR LAUCH FAIRCLOTH Senator Faircloth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. .............. Mr. Chairman, in 1990, after the Iraqi invasion of their country, the Kuwaiti government in exile formed Citizens for a Free Kuwait. They hired the lobbying firm of Hill and Knowlton to influence public opinion in this country toward entering the conflict. Lauri Fitz-Pegado was in charge of the effort. Her strategy was to use alleged witnesses to atrocities, to tell stories of human rights violations in occupied Kuwait. Using their testimony, she orchestrated what has come to be known as the Baby Incubator Fraud. She first coached a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, identified only at the time as Naira, to testify before Congress that she had seen Iraqi soldiers remove Kuwaiti babies from hospital respirators. Naira claimed to be a refugee who had been working as a volunteer in a Kuwaiti hospital throughout the first few weeks of the Iraqi occupation. She said that she had seen them take babies out of the incubators, take the incubators, and leave the babies ``on the cold floor to die.'' Naira's emotional testimony riveted human rights organizations, the news mediums, and the Nation. That incident was cited by six Members of the U.S. Senate as reasons to go to war with Iraq. However, it was later discovered that the girl was in fact the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. It turns out that Lauri Fitz-Pegado had concealed Naira's real identity. Since then, reputable human rights organizations and journalists have concluded that the baby incubator story was an outright fabrication. Every study commissioned by the Kuwaiti government could not produce a shred of evidence that the ambassador's daughter had been back in occupied Kuwait to do volunteer work in a hospital. It was a total fabrication.

site your source please! thanks! I seem to remember watching a 60 minutes story where I heard this, but I'm too lazy to look it up. In any case I've heard both the story of throwing out babies and then the story that the young woman testifying was a daughter of a prince and she had been coached.

You are speaking from the perspective of a centrally located poster of cc. Also CJZ has attended a number of Seattle Pub Clubs. The Idea of Pub Club was for posters from the greater Seattle area to get together. The first compromise was that we would visit the eastside once a month. After we did this for a while it became obvious that there wasn't enough eastside support to keep up that schedule, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't visit the eastside from time to time. Since our original system broke down we have been operating under a system one could describe as tyranny of the majority. If you don't live in Ballard/Fremont you are forced to drive long distances to attend Pub Club, and worse yet you have to drive home. Think of this in reverse; how often would you attend Pub Club if you had to drive to Redmond. If you want Pub Club on the eastside you are forced to start a fight to tear it out of the hands of the Ballard/Fremont croud. CJZ isn't asking to go back to the once a month plan; he's just trying to get things so that when a few eastsiders ask for pub Club once every couple months (the last eastside one was 4 months ago) they get some respect from the rest of us. Pub Club is fun. We should be willing to share.

I like your TR. Fuck climbing.

Good times! We all had lots of fun dissing Fremont/Ballard folks (oh my god I am one ) Advice for Dave Schultz. Get your hands on these 2 things: A car Self respect Oh yeah and Good luck to Mtnranger!

Nice to meet you Matt, and Geek too!! All in all that was one of the better Pub Clubs I've been to in a while. It was nice to see a bunch of folks who don't make it into Seattle very often(Lisa, Matt W, CJZ, Jon). For us Seattle folks that Celtic place is really easy to get to, and the bar is a good spot for Pub Club. I may add more details to the report in the Spray version of this Pub Club thread.

Crazy I tell you!

Right you are Trask! I'm cool with that type of moderating

I thought it had something to do with Chic Scott.

I thought you didn't like the term Columbia Mountains.

There is one thing I've learned over the years; you can always count on CJZ to make a bad situation worse.

Hey buddy

It's more fun and wholesome than the conservative pedophile group you hang with.

I'm pretty sure GW wants to flatten then pave the entire US. After that he wants to set up Walmarts across the country in a 2 mile grid pattern.

That might be a good spot for the future, but we were just downtown last week. That is my only opinion for this weeks Pub Club. I'm happy going to the eastside which is where the groundswell seems to be this week.

Once in Jasper I walked into a a touron shop and thumbed through the postcards. I found this card that said, "Canada," and in smaller print it said, "Rocky Mountains." The picture on the postcard was a shot of the north side of Mt. Baker. Fuck those Utah fucks. The Rocky Mountains start east of the Rocky Mountain Trench.

Yeah I don't think I would want to hike up that hill in the summer.

I hope fixing the problem doesn't involve good spelling. not that I'm a good speller.

From the movie Love Story "being in love means never having to say your sorry." Or at least so I've heard cause I've only read the Mad Magazine version of the movie. Maybe if your really in love you can tell your woman that you would rather commit mass murder than watch a chick flick.

You can't read for shit Mark DIE, DIE, DIE

I'm a Balardite, but I'm not opposed to the Redmond thing.

I ment North of the ship canal.