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I could agree with the drop test argument. As far as the resale value goes I personally just don't sell my gear.....ever....so that is a subjective point. The rope drag point is kind of off given that a small dedicated biner would move freely (speculation on my point) and the OP was talking about long runners etc. Leaving the sling and adding a biner solely for racking seems to me you are adding weight and C. F. potential for minimal increased convenience. Just my .02

Sobo you dog! The guy IS the interwebs! I don't think your idea is all that bad. I could not agree more about the extra length and racking. I can't stand it. Also agree with you given your reasoning of typical routes you are on. I say go for it.

I could go for some of those! Please! If you are anywhere near Bellingham I will buy you a beer in trade! Shit I will even buy it for you at your choice of location and then leave you to enjoy they fruits of your kindness!

You can watch it on YouTube. It is in segments but watchable (so to speak. I would say it is better than Vertical LImit but that could be my local prejudice.

I do not know what it is about this movie but it is one of my favorites.

Right on Mark! I tell you what it has been a great pleasure and I consider it a privilige to have met and climbed with many of the folks you named. I agree with the maintenance idea and kudos to you for making that a goal of yours! I look forward to meeting more of the folks that make it out there and I feel privileged to have been one of small percentage of the overall climbing community that do and have been doing the Dtown thing. I feel lucky indeed. This place has been a great source of adventure for me and I anticipate it to contiue to be so!

Right on gentlemen, way to rock it! WOOT!

Nah, I had it tattooed on my inner thigh! Are we in spray yet?

That would be my staus quo! I guess I am just spinning my wheels. Rangers say it's a go, so never mind. Thanks Sobo!

That was a good one! Hidden Lake Peak 12/3/11 I do not think I will have to shovel too much Sobo, this bad boy is on some major stilts! I may need crampons for the stairs!

So I am curious - If a guy is able to get to the lookout can he get in it? In other words is it like other lookouts in the area where a fella can stay inside? Anyone?

Fixed it for ya Gener! Sorry for your autoerotic asphyxiation problem. hhmmmm, what are you doing friday night Tyson? (thread drift from this important discussion)) I guess I will be your spotter so you do not unintentionally asphyxiate yerself! Should I wear the usual?

Fixed it for ya Gener! Sorry for your autoerotic asphyxiation problem.

Well said Chris, and thank you for opening a real discussion.

When I spoke to Smedley about this thread and Genes mention of such a fixed line, Smed said he has thought for a long time there should be one. Does he need one? Nah. Does he think one is a good idea? Yes. On a side note, have we met B? It may have been one of the other calendar butte renaissance guys I met in Oso.

If only we could get Ted Turner and Michelle Bachmann - They could be the BTO ticket and rock this shit old school!

That was fun times Pat! Nice to meet Josh and glad to share our enormous beer haul!

I can't read anything you write due to the "distraction" image. damn!

Smedley votes yes for fixed line.

I couldn't agree more! C'mon Chris lay out some history for us. I know a bit but would love to know more and I am, sure as Rad said that there are lots of us who would! Good job Brandon and co. for your work up there on your route. I do feel that this place is never going to be "over-run" with "sportos" but maybe having a bit more history of this "sacred" place would lend more reverence to the area (not that I feel it is totally lacking). Cheers all, Tyson geBauer

Words are my business... and reality is mine..... I am your reality... Now Sobo that if f'ing scary!

To know a word is good. To know its use divine. To use a word with no real thought is to throw the fruit and eat the rind.

That is good! Nice one Bone.