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Rookies! Always looking to improve, mentors strongly encouraged to apply.

I only counted my own beers. And I only counted liquids.

It was fun indeed. The weather was way better than I expected. The 6th photo? I was drunk and shooting from bed.

Trip: Index - Date: 2/25/2012 Trip Report: Headed out to do some aid cragging over the weekend and hang out with a couple of buddies. I do not know what the route is except sportos can crank it and it is way too hard for me to climb without aid, and a lot of it. This was fun practice for an aid noob like myself to have bolts right there to protect me and allow me to experiment with placements. Here are some pics: RF Says "I dunno about MRE omelettes" The Line Gear Notes: I brought a ton. 6 pack of beer. Approach Notes: Left the lower town wall on a trail leaving Ultrabrutal and headed steeply up and right.

Ya know if you stop at the store by Niedeprum road the "meat" in those burritos is emu grown right behind the store in the metal yurts. mmmmmm yummay!

FS called me today for more details. Really nice folks. Said this was the first report of Sleds in that area. FS also said they are going to put more signs at the entrance to the valley/meadows from the old road grade side and patrol the start point off Beckler more often to educate those who recreate.

Good advice on the first point. The second has gotten me in trouble in the past.

Not much one can do about that, except maybe vandalize their snow machines while the riders are out skiing. The asshole in me wanted to pull the fuel lines off while they were out skiing so they could enjoy the walk out but what good would that have done anyone?

ya know, if they would have had the decency to have stopped and chatted or preferably offered me a beer or something, then we could have had a friendly discourse. I just thought the guilty look and the half assed courtesy waves seemed a little cavalier and yeah the high speed run by did not win any points on this end. I have been around and passed by several snowmobiles in other areas and don't really give a hoot. Mater of fact I have passed peds on snowmobiles and gave them as wide of berth as the road allowed and did not feel guilty or out of place one bit. The point of my post was simply vent a little and maybe get some other peoples opinions. One thing seeing that display did for me is make me re-think the work I have done with a hand drill in the wilderness when I guess I could have just as easily brought my HILTI.

No way! Tele gear -

Awh, you mean spirited meany!

No, they were not on an old road. The Wild Sky does have older road grades in it as do other Wilderness areas such as the Boulder River Wilderness. Hard to be "untrammeled by man" if the Wilderness was designated after heavy industrial use.

What would the Washington Mindfulness Coalition have to do with any of this?

Are there roads inside wilderness areas? Yes, in particular if the road existed prior to the Wilderness area being designated as such. That does not mean one may still operate motorized or mechanized vehicles on it.

No license plates as they were coming in from a completely different valley. I was not going to drive around to that side just to get the #'s. I had a camera and almost snapped a few shots of them and then considered my position and the fact that there were alot more of them than us and well it seemed somewhat risky to me so there is that. I am not so concerned about these particular people being directly punished, but the notification may help enforcement patrol the Beckler River road a little more. @Tvash - So you are right a couple of yahoos may not be a huge deal, but like in previous discussion regarding 4th season users they can and will throw a bad light on a whole group.

I tried to flag them down in a friendly way. All I got was the courtesy wave. Six times. I am usually not a real stickler for rules but even I have my line. Too bad though, the FS was very interested in hearing about this and said I should also expect a call from law enforcement. I would hate to see a few folks get things all f'd up for the rest of us.

Yes, it was some crud snow this weekend. We were wondering yesterday how your trip was panning out. Check my FB for some Cabin photos - 80dg in there was plenty cozy!

More than two miles in from the boundary line (and I am being generous) Yes, I am sure and I have verified my gut feeling by referencing current maps.

I was off Hwy 2. Not party of any rescue unless it was the "rescue" of some sweet ski lines as most of the sledders had sticks or boards with them and very little gear. I am all for sleds, just not in the wilderness.

Ya know, I am probably one of the lazier folks out there who loves to use mechanized transport just as much as the next guy, but am I wrong to be slightly more than bothered by no fewer than 6 sleds coming right through and across my tracks, feet from me while 6 miles from my car AND in a protected wilderness nonetheless? Sheesh.

Way to go Dan! If I had half the energy you have I would be happy little man! Nice photos too...