summitchaserCJB

hardmen.

pretty long commute though.

You guys make me happy that Index is my home crag.

impressive stuff guys.

I'd say bring the ax-leave the pons. That worked for me on this route.

oh sweet. That is cool.

A chain is made up of a number of links, most of which are generally thinner than a heavy duty rap ring (or we could say just as thick if it makes people feel better). Having one point of reliance, rather than 8-10 in a chain (any of which could fail) is preferred. I'm not even sure how you rap off of hangers. Care to explain? Do you leave a locker or something? Rig up some sling? In that case, I think it is obvious that this is the worst option. (picture is of what I call a heavy duty rap ring)

why do you ask?

So long as I can safely rap off the anchor I have no problems. When you talk about using webbing you are talking about an anchor with a pretty fast expiration date. But from what I gather you are dealing with a very specific set of standards that you guys have down there. If you have heavy duty steel rap rings off of bolts that's just as good if not better than chains because you have less complexity and hence less potential failure areas.

Ya how can you say chains suck? They are pretty important to crag climbing as it stands today.

Good use of photos.

Ya there are a few things. Maybe worth cleaning if you have spare time.

You done Adams/Saint Helens or are you leaving the low hanging fruit for last?

When I read your post OW I thought you said "beer in mind"- which is kinda of a self-fulfilling prophecy because I did have beer in mind at the time.

ya, it's just 5.6.

jerk!

Ya that would be fun.

I don't even know what to say to this. Yes?

Ya well someone with 1 post has slightly less weight than a regular. If you want proof I can send you a video. But you can always fake that stuff. But who does that? I mean seriously.

You do have a point man. Although snaking would be kinda lame IMO, you might have asked for it (well...you did). You just didn't maybe expect people to try to free it maybe? Anyway, hope it works out guys.

Ok air...you do the car to car in faster time. Check back. If you do it and provide proof, mock away. Oh, and do the north ridge of baker in a day too. Then post away.

I know they are bad near Mt. Stuart. Like epic bad.

And I doubt it. They are just barely selling below asking price. {:>(