justinp

Any GIS gurus out there Looking for LiDAR data from Bonneville Dam west to Washougal covering roughly 3 miles north and south of the river. If you can help me out send me a PM and we will figure out how to transfer the file.

Bump (This is a cool thread that is getting too far down in the list IMHO) Close-up of Lonesome Spire-Hills Creek Spires Bolt ladder runs up right arete

February 22, 2010 Southwest Washington Wildlife Reports “Dog Mountain DOT Project Review: Biologist Anderson met with Biologist Jones from WDOT to discuss highway safety construction at Dog Mt. in the Columbia River Gorge. At issue is oak habitat removal and rock blasting in order to prevent rock fall along highway 14 in Skamania County. Rock blasting will take place adjacent to a peregrine falcon breeding site and an evaluation was conducted to determine potential disturbance impacts to this breeding pair. After the site visit, WDOT agreed to minimize removal of oak habitat and both agencies agreed that blasting would have minimal impacts to peregrine falcons using the area.” blasting = minimal impact climbing = major impact

That was my thought…. according to the recommendations they owe climbers at least a month. Anyways climbers can get back pay for the month we have be missing

Current recommendations NOT law pertaining to the management of peregrine falcons can be found below. abbreviated Falco peregrinus I am working on getting a copy of the pergrine management plan for region 5 (columbia george area) and a copy of the Beacon Rock climbing management plan and will post them up when I receive them (sorry Joe I could not wait a month or so for u to post them up ) On a side note I don't think I am allergic to poison oak so the north side will work for now

Suppose It's cuz we have yet to get out togther.... It's kind of funny everyone that I meet up there... when they find out im from c'town they always say oh u must climb with tyler then.

did not khow we were arguing (maybe give it ten minutes) Joe do you have copies of the WA F&W Peregrine Falcon Management Plan and/or the current Climbing Management Plan that you would be willing to post up? Also who is and how do you get a hold of the Climbing Advisory Committee that will be working with Eric?

nevermind

Dudes got one post. Am I missing something?

Yep Nate a auto-look device is key on multi-pitch. Gri-gri's certainly have there place on multi-picth and are also great for aid belay (especially when climbing with Ivan). Not only can you tend to the i-pod but also chain smoke, drink wine photog and take a leak on a long belay. Oh wait I guess it does encourage laziness

Anyone has the right to voice there opinion on the issue regardless of if it's in line with mine or yours. I myself am not exactly saying that Beacon should be open year round..... I would only like to see planning as it relates to the falcons and the climbers be consistent with laws and statutes set forth by state and federal government and not policy by “well this is how it is” ya know like the whole trail thang

that could be a fun party - unless it's like the commenting period option that arthur dent got in the hitchhiker's guide prior to the earth's demolition for an interstellar freeway be sure to bring ur towel

Yep... This is all foggy at best no? It does appear that all Wash State Parks are updating or creating Park Management Plans in conjunction with the 2013 centennial . According to the website: The planning process, also known as the Classification and Management Planning (CAMP), includes four stages: 1.Identify issues and concerns of park stakeholders. 2.Explore alternative approaches to address identified issues. 3.Prepare preliminary recommendations to address issues or suggest a realistic compromise. 4.Propose final recommendations for formal agency and Commission adoption. “Each park planning project will go through these four stages or some similar variation, depending on the particular park. People are encouraged to participate at every stage of a planning project. The process also reflects the standards set out in the State Environmental Policy Act (SEPA) and information collected through the planning effort will be used to satisfy SEPA requirements.” Although Beacon Rock is not currently listed on the website a phone conversation indicated that the Beacon staff are working towards updating there management plan. As part of the updating process the public will be given the opportunity to comment on the plan.......

My guess is it's in the out of date 2002 Washington Peregrine Falcon Status Report. However, I have not found it yet.

Okay Joe or anyone else that gives a fawk specifically Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 makes it unlawful to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill or sell birds. This has nothing to do with protecting nests......

Joe specifically what law are you referring to? I have complete faith that what you are saying is true.... Just looking for some clarification and education on the matter. Are you talking endangered species act, sate law, forest practice regulation.

Thanks for the background Joe. As I said I am new to the whole issue.... Aside from your para-legal experience have u consulted with someone specializing in environmental law?

I feel a survey coming on. So how many gun totin cc'ers are there out there. U'll shot ur eye out

I don't know but put me on the list for one

As pointed out this is a great start (or continuation)... In my little engineering brain it seems with all the educated people interested in this topic we could come up with an added scientific (or/and legal) approach to supplement simply detailing what is observed out there..... BTW anyone have a copy of the current management plan for the falcons? Curious on how sound there science is or is this just what “I” say goes. Has an external proposal to allow climbing year round been formally proposed? By law WA State Park must consider external proposal for use on public land and requires NEPA SEPA analysis if the proposal is deemed valid. Or perhaps I'm missing something. Im new here

dude dont tell me you are selling the axe I gave u for free Actually I dont give a fawk.... Thanks for skis

Joe will u be the sole author of this journal? How often do u plan to monitor?

Pretty sure he click or clack was working on packin one. Although there was certainly no issues with cell coverage as I was rockin Pandora on my blackberry all day. Next time I will follow Ivan’s lead and make the grueling approach with sixer in hand

Made it out Saturday with half the Tappet brethren. Not sure if I was soloing with Click or Clack? Cool place if ur a 5.12 + climber or a aid climber looking for a workout and shelter from the rain. BTW if Ivan or Jeff wants to pipe in and let me know how the heck u pull off a weekend trip to Zion over V-day weekend that would be much appreciated

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