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Only problem is, these "liability forms" do not protect you from all liability. Ridiculous I know, but such is the case in this litigious society.

Kellogg and co strike again. Pretty neat read.

Nice fantasy. You were lucky enough not to get involved in such a tragedy, perhaps, but you're fooling yourself if you asset that nobody you ever climbed with and none of their family members would ever have sought to recover damages from somebody they perceived as being irresponsible in a way that led to their becoming disabled or killed. Lets see somebody try to answer his question rather than stirring the pot with the rhetoric that belongs in one of your political "discussions." Well Matt. I was actually talking about me being the young buck and getting a chance from the old crusties. You know, when I was 11-12 years old and I would go out hiking and climbing with people from my church. Why are you so damn confrontational?

Yer never safe homey. Like Ivan and Matt said, despite the protections and even waivers, the lack of human decency will leave you exposed to ruin just because you were trying to do a good thing. I am glad I grew up in a time/ with people that wouldn't even think of such things so I could learn.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I really don't think that anything I have read was really torture. Sure the Red Cross calls it torture, but if those things are torture, well holy shit man, I have been tortured too. To be honest, I think Gitmo is a stupid idea though. Problem is, we have the problem; we must now deal with it safely and correctly. It is very similar in my eyes to the Middle East. As some of you have ascerted, our foreign policy has contributed to animosity that generates attacks like 911. Now, 20/20 hindsight says "we messed up." That doesn't mean we just act like some bitches and sit on our thumbs. No matter what happened in the past, you must always do the right thing. What exactly is the right thing for Gitmo? Fuck, I don't have a crystal ball, but I am sure it is not to just let these fuckers roam with US green cards and a bus pass to the local CENEX. Same holds true in the Middle East. We may have conrtibuted to Saddam's attrocities, This doesn't mean that we shouldn't take him out. It means we had to.

Who said I was talking about you; you pretentious fuck?

I love it when Pat bitch slappes kkkk. I love how you leg hump any liberal with an IQ over 12.

Funny how I am neither.

Someone got audited.

Also, if you ever want to go to looking glass in NC. Let me know. It is great climbing. Long drive from where you are at, but well worth it.

was it huxley?

What was that from? I remember reading that. Wasn't it a Latin American author?

Horsepens 40 has got some really good bouldering and I think is the closest fix. I don't know about Arkansas but I heard there is some good stuff there.

Man, there are really sweet places that are doable in the weekend. It will involve a bit of driving but well worth the drives. The above link has some info. Do a general web search and you will find some.

I dont know if I agree with stepping in on the private firms, but I didn't agree with the government financing of private firms to begin with. Good for Obama for stepping up anyhow.

Unless the bitch got a skin graft from a blue whale, the pic is a fake.

I would be worried about splinters

Lets hold our discussion 1/2 way up the wall. I might be a little late. Fee free to start without me.

They deserve it. How else would they fund the opulent lifestyles that we yearn for and thus work for; stimulating the national economy through taxes?

"Name the purpose of the UN" Still haven't figured out that one... Pass meaningless resolutions perhaps? Did I get it?

Good for you Bug. The only way to ensure your kids are being taught properly is to be a part of their education. I wish all parents were as concerned for their children's education.

"pix speak a thousand words, here's some to make the fruit of our foreign policy, and the need for improving it by not building future gitmos, clearer:" These were taken 20 years before gitmo; correct?

Read: "sucking Tvash's dick"

Oh and once again I call bull shit. You have always alluded to being privvy to experiences, but fail to divulge details. In my line of work we know that is a sign that the subject is completely full of shit. I have called you out on your supposed military experience, but still you denied to. I now again call you out to know what your experiences with the Lakota were because I know alot of motherfucking people on that reservation. If you try to blow smoke up my ass, I will know and consequently everyone here will as well. Um...I think I just posted that I've never met a Lakota. Am I that stoned, or is it you? I have a few experiences in the drunken injun department, but like I said, that, and a few other topics, isn't up for discussion with web dumbshits such as yourself. As for what you believe or do not believe...I'm not going to lose a whole lot of sleep over it. I now hand you over to the capable hands of Ivan, who will continue to intellectually ass fuck you until you bleed out. Oh, so you just make allude to these experiences vaguely so that when called out you can deny it. Typical you pussy fuck.