tvashtarkatena

Some need simple. Others prefer real.

If you can't understand the basic terminology of science, then you might consider steering clear of the topic altogether. For the third time, with feeling, all dumbasses repeat after me: All of science is "just" theories. Evolution is "just" a theory. The Standard Model is "just" a theory. Quantum mechanics is "just" a theory. "Facts" or factual evidence, supports or refutes theories. The theory of evolution has never, not once, been refuted by repeatable, verifiable, peer reviewed scientific evidence. Due to it's religious controversy, evolution is, without a doubt, the most tested theory in history. Every piece of peer reviewed, verified, and repeatable evidence used to test it over its 170 year history has supported it. Every single one. I challenge any of you to come up with even a single published, scientific paper that had withstood the test of time which refutes this theory. And please, save kindergarten arguments like "hey, there's still monkeys in Africa" for Bible study. I have a low tolerance for morons.

Sounds like somebody would do well to rent that Nova episode "Evolution on Trial" - so you might avoid sounding this ignorant of the topic in the future. And as for your "Talk to Jesus" line, well, I'm not in the habit of talking to guys that have been dead for 2000 years. There's medication for that. I'm talking to you, mofo.

Nova did an excellent program on the court case, which actually happened in a real court room with a real judge and everything. I didn't pull the quote from the Nova program, but that doesn't really matter, does it? The Intelligent Design folks showed up to a gunfight with a pair of kindergarten scissors, and appropriately got their sorry asses kicked by the ACLU. Dumbass.

I just explained to the Mongoloid that evolution, like all science, is a tested theory supported by facts. Theories are not facts, they are supported by factual evidence until such evidence proves them in error. Evolution is still waiting for that to happen...ever. Catch up before you spew, buddy. I hate repeating myself. PS: I don't drink.

TTK....how is it that evolution is the most successfully tested theory in all of science? Where did you get that gem? It's a courtroom quotation from the Pennsylvania intelligent design case profiled recently on Nova, and I believe there aren't many in the scientific field who would disagree with it.

I don't give a shit about how the intolerant kind of Christians I'm talking about feel one way or the other. When they act on their fucked up prejudiced values, that's when I start caring, and acting.

Facts support theories, you twit. A fossil is a fact. Facts are minor events which support the theory. The theory is the Big Idea. Evolution, and every other bit of science out there, is a theory supported by factual evidence. And evolution is the most successfully tested theory in all of science. Jesus, who slipped you through through grade school?

Yeah, to the Christians, there's always someone, someone who's just minding their own business, who doesn't quite measure up. First it was the blacks and indians. Now it's the gays. "Oh, it's right here in the Bible. Our hands are tied. The Bible, you know, it's The WORD." Well, if it's the word, why do the fucking CHristians spend so much time reinterpreting it to justify their latest kookiness, like being BORN AGAIN, for example? "Oh, that was always in there...God was just waiting for us to interpret it correctly". This "my way or the highway" Christian God that frowns upon whole groups of people that, coincidentally, lead lives His followers wouldn't approve of anyway, is nothing more than a Grade A mythical Asshole his followers invented through creative Biblical interpretation to justify their own prejudices. He doesn't even remotely resemble the Catholic God I grew up with, or the Jewish God of my close friends. We all choose our own version of God: if you want to follow an asshole who wants to His fucked up Way for the rest of us, go for it, but expect a pretty good fight when it comes to public policy.

Tested theory is science, you dumbass.

You know what they say in Africa: "Don't fuck the Spears"

No surprises here. You're golden, everyone else is fucked. But that's not YOUR intolerance, it's God's, right? Blame it on the boss. Right. Yeah, I've got a problem with that. You subscribe to a particarly brand of religious intolerance because it suits you; in the end, it's your choice. Thanks, though. I'll take my chances with a few good works, a few sins here and there, and not judging, er, I mean letting God judge, those with differing sexuality and faith. If that means going to hell, oh well, at least all my friends will be there...and you guys won't be (or so you've been lead to believe). Somehow, I don't think it's going to matter either way at that point. As for teaching creationism, that would be fine...a) if it were science (it's not) and b) if religion were taught in public schools. Fortunately, our standards for science education haven't slipped so far as to allow it, and our Constitutional guarantee of freedom of worship prevents Christianity from getting state sponsored special treatment. It's not 'fear', it's an appropriate refusal to allow junk to adulterate sound science education and a religious minority to misuse publicly funded education to propogandize the majority.

My dad drinks radiator fluid straight from the jug, shoots the eyes out of a reeper at 1000 meters, and telemarks on the leg the Russians didn't blow off...all at the same time.

Too bad there wasn't a Lithuanian somewhere in the woodpile, eh Stumpy?

Yes, but "American Women"! Fucking fucker magazine!

Correction: Various cults have created the myth that Jesus died for our sins. One thing is probably accurate: Someone named Jesus died on a cross because the Romans sentenced him to death. Past that, it's all what you want to believe.

that you're a hermaphroditic, bloviating besserwisser. You would know, lover.

Denali is in the Alaskan wilderness, an area populated with Alaskan Natives. Maybe we should ask them what should be up there.

No, no. If there's one thing everyone on this board agrees with to a man, and there may BE only one thing, it's that you're the most flatlined dumbass any of us have ever had the displeasure of wiping off our shoes, Seahawks.

We're not actually arguing whether or not Putitang is a fascist are we? That's like arguing whether or not Bush is a moron.

Puti Tang: the new gangsta

Ouch...even for Seahawks.

Um...Everest is (partly) in the Khumbu; a Tibetan Buddhist area. There are prayer flags all over the place.

Oh, and by they way, STFU Seahawks, you couch potato, cabbage headed dumbass.