Crillz

That's part of growing up. Not against the law. Maybe biking on US2 is illegal? I have no idea, but I don't recall seeing people biking on it much, if at all. If it is legal, I guess the oinker was just being a douche. Biking hwy 2 is totally legal. Maybe because he's underage? Or maybe he didn't have proper reflectors and headlight? http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/bike/closed.htm Shizzle. He didn't have his papers! That's all.

Don't know the legal status either. I've seen bikers on it well past the towns. Everytime we drive home on Hiway 2 there's at least one punk-looking kid or dirty old guy cruising on a bike. Usually wearing black or camo clothes, somewherez near Goldbar. Come to think of it, there's always some dude on the side of the hiway by Goldbar that reminds me of Rambo First Blood when Stalone's strollin' around town.

Oh snap! Best chance is for the chains under the roof though. You donate another 3 hundy and I promise by the end of the year. The Index shirts are pretty pimp. I've been sporting mine around.

$$$ I may have to check out this crack next time I'm in the area. How's the setup for a TR? Biggest pro I have is #5 BD.

I've fallen on a green C3. The cam held, but one of the lobes dented a bit, and it was close to being fixed - I would guess a fairly low force fall. Recently, I fell a few times back to back on a Metoliuos #00 - short falls, but near the deck, nothing happened to the cam. Sometimes it's pretty hard to see into the tiny crack and see all of the lobes on the small cams. I'd think if one lobe isn't as engaged the other two get all or most of the force, mix in a slight rotation, and I can see the lobes getting beat-up.

First of all, 1 in 20 is 5%, not 30%. Also, do cams really need to be "set?" That sounds weird. Sure, I'll tug on a cam sometimes to make sure the placement is good, but I don't really think it's getting "set," nor do I think that the simple act of tugging on it makes the placement more secure. Why would it? I can only think, by tugging, it could get the cam to bight a bit and ensure that enough friction is in play to let the cam do what it does - push outward. I rarely tug on cam placements. If you place them in front of your nose (not always possible), then you can pretty damn well tell if they're going to hold.

Did you try shoving your leg as far as in the crack as possible, then pull your foot out, forcing your thigh to expand in the crack? If the knee was only good for balance, more thigh in the crack should do the trick. Then let go of the stack and use your abs to hold you up. I've never done Carnival, but I've played around with wide cracks and the levitation technique really does work! "Similar" to what he said. I think it's called a knee-lock. You pull your foot outside of the crack and it makes it super secure. You can remove your hands using this technique. It works for me for about #5 and #6 C4 size. Check out widefetish.com

Ouch. You could see that inverted fall coming. The dynamic belay was probably helping that alien hold a bit. In this Roger's Corner case, it does sound like a bad judgement on gear placement. The hard moves on that climb protect really well with #.75-#2 cams. Again, hope he's ok. I think if 1/3 of "good" cam placements failed, people would be decking/getting the chop every week at Index, no?

Hope the climber is ok. Summitdude - Sagitarrius is f*n burly - no shame in being pumped on that one!

:tup: Last time I was up there, I saw someone attempt to lieback the whole thing! Fierce!

Prolly get some good countertops out of it! Better get my weakass up some of these routes before they're gone.

Nah. I heard there was a UFO siting around that time. They must have been investigating the siting. Hmmmm...

Looking for some experienced, safety oriented, climbers for some trad climbing at Kathy's Crag.

Actually, I vote just to take up some wood and make some forms. Pour a new block out of concrete. It'll look close enough, and it will be easier. Let's pour back the block about 2 feet taller so the sketch is removed from that pitch.

Aren't all cougars full grown. Isn't that part of the criteria?

Not possible. looking at the block in the picture and from my memory that the top was about eye level. Let's say it was 5' high by 6' wide by 20" thick. Average granite density is 2.70 g/cm^3 5'x6'x20" = 60" x 72" x 20" = 152cm x 183cm x 51cm = 1,418,616 cu.gm. x 2.70 = 3,830,263 grams weight = 8444.3 lbs. = 4-1/4 TONS. I could have easily hung my Civic wagon off that block and it wouldn't have budged. My vote is for freeze/thaw. If I'm lucky I'll get out there sometime this week and have a looksy myself. You'd probably be able to see some pretty good leverage scrapes from a prybar, no?

***Late Breaking News*** Human body parts found near small, meth-producing, town in Western Washington. It hasn't been confirmed, but the body parts are believed to be that of a hiker who was using technical climbing equipment to scale a portion of a steep wall, when apparently, the wall got angry and ejected the hiker as well as a large block. This steep wall has long been popular with hard-men rock climbers. First hand accounts of the incident are still being investigated. Anybody with information is urged to contact the local Buckaroo department.

No worries. It was either Jesus or some climbers. I wouldn't count out the freeze/thaw action - but I can't really say, since I haven't been up to that ledge in about a month. I've been there a few times when some pretty big blocks have magically (naturally) come from way above and smashed into the forest. Though, I've also been there when some pretty big sh*t has rained down from the LTW (by the cleaning crew). Maybe some dumbass aid climber popped it off topping out on City Park.

So Crillz, do you know something you're not telling us? WTF? I know lots of things that I'm not going to tell any of you. As far as that block missing, since I haven't seen it with my own two eyes, I can't really speculate on its demise. But, getting my feathers all ruffled up, and smashing my keyboard, isn't going to help anything.

As someone mentioned, P2 of City Park might actually be safer now. Previously, if you were to blow the low thin moves, you were almost guaranteed a trip down to the top of that block - maybe not now. I've really got no opinion on the trundle as I haven't been to that ledge recently. Probably not good to piss off the owner of that land until the sale goes through though. That would have been loud as hell!

Sad news. Be safe.

It now has the same rating as Thin Fingers!

But then you couldn't claim a legit onsite.

Those little squirrels are more of a threat to your food than the bears. I heard old timer stories that the bears would come out of the dark forest and grab your sammich when you turned your back, but I never saw it with my own eyes. I did however, many times, see those little puffy tailed bastards jump on the table and go after my grub. Those little creatures watch your eyes, and when you blink, they start their assault. :pagetop:

Not sure I'd compare Camp 4 to 11worth. As far as the campground goes, 11worth is WAY better than Camp 4. When I stayed in Camp 4.... my fondest memory is the bathroom reaking of the vomit from what was obviously a very fun night.