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So, do you think something should be illegal just because you think it's wrong? Wow, you must have a lot of confidence in your opinions! You must always be right to have such insistence that your own moral opinions be codified into law that everyone else must follow. I wonder why republicans always talk about being the party of liberty, but really they're always trying to legislate morality.

Well, you think gays are morally depraved, have compared gay marriage to the holocaust, and insist on refusing them equal civil rights.

Summit, why do you hate homosexuals?

That's what they're into in Oregon. It's weird.

If being gay is a choice, doesn't mean being straight is a choice?

Breathing is a choice. It's quite unnatural.

OMG! Ginger! He must be a daywalker.

how could it be unnatural? Homosexuality is well-documented within the human species. Just cause you don't like it doesn't make it unnatural. Chimps kill each other. Monkeys fling poo. Gorillas kill baby gorillas. Is that all unnatural?

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

Source? JESUS, MOTHERFUCKER!

BUT THE BIBLE SAYS IT IS WRONG!!!!! WTF PEOPLE?????

I'd totally live in 11worth, if I could find work. If you do go to Everett, Snohomish is a nice town. Close to Index, and a nicer place to live than Everett, but close enough to commute to the big hospitals in Everett. I like it so much I bought a house there

It's said that Leavenworth has a high cancer rate, especially amongst children, as they spray pesticides etc on the apples (the orchards butt right up against town) pretty heavily and get some drift into town. If I was a pregnant woman I'd want to be elsewhere, but it's real nice town otherwise. Source?

LOL! I love this site.

But do you support legislation that removes civil liberties from them because they are gay? That sounds like being a dick to me.

Could gays and lesbians get a Marriage, if it was carried out by an ordained minister? Or would Marriage still be reserved only for straight couples (who used a minister)? I think a better solution is that marriage should be a purely religious/social event, with zero legal recognition. We have our own social mores regarding what marriage really means, and that should be good enough to define it. I don't see why the government even got involved in the first place. I mean, the functional trappings of marriage are much more easily created via existing legal bindings anyway, such as powers of attorney, wills, etc. AND, those documents are MUCH easier to dissolve. So, I view marriage as a dead institution already. BUT, if one class of citizenry can enjoy it's dubious legal benefits, then I guess we all should. Otherwise, it's as crazy as disallowing mortgage interest deductions for people who like blonde women. Totally arbitrary and insane.

If it's a religious institution, than why is government involved at all? You think we should compromise civil rights and liberty to "keep the peace?" I'm glad you weren't around in the 1860's. A yeah, that was my point, why is the gubment involved. I'm glad I was not alive then, too. What is wrong with civil unions anyway? Seems like a fair compromise to me? I'm open-minded about the options, however. Nothin wrong with civil unions, just like there is nothing wrong with separate drinking fountains for minorities, right? civil unions are not the same as marriage, or they'd be called the same. How demeaning, if you're gay, you can't say "we're married," you have to say, "we're civil unioned?" Why should gays and lesbians have to be singled out like that? You know what that's called? Segregation.

If it's a religious institution, than why is government involved at all? You think we should compromise civil rights and liberty to "keep the peace?" I'm glad you weren't around in the 1860's.

Yes, they sure do. Some people had a HUGE problem with ending slavery, for example.

I'm gonna ignore the rest of your post because you are a fellow mossberg owner. Glocks are perfect as well. We aren't guaranteed a right to marry whoever we want. That is why people can't marry trees or dogs. That's why were in this mess in the first place. dangit I'm trying to upload a pic of my glock and it isn't working. Oh well. Back to drinking a beer. OMG, Brilliant! Dogs and trees can't vote, either, so I guess gays shouldn't be able to do that, either. You're smart.

Good point. Honestly, I'm with you. How did government get mixed up in this shit to begin with?

Yeah, civil rights are not very important, are they?. I can't believe the government is "wasting" so much time on this issue. Any other issues you're on the fence about? Have you come to terms with that whole "civil rights" debacle from the 60's, or does that still sting, too? No, that is not what I meant. I believe we should all have the same civil rights, including gays. However, I'm not convinced marriage is the best compromise. Why not do civil unions that offer the same benefits (more/less)? This could keep the right wing nuts happy (a bit anyway) and also give the libs the rights they want/deserve. As I stated, I'm am undecided on the marriage factor, but not for reasons of straight get this, gays don't. It is not as black and white, from my perspective... There has to be some compromises on both sides (IMO). Seems boths sides almost always have an all or nothing attitude, especially the right wing. OH! I get it now. Separate, but equal. Wait, didn't we try that already? By that logic, we should also make inter-racial couples have "civil unions." And when women vote, we shouldn't call it "voting." That way we can at least keep the rightwing nutjobs happy.

Also a gun owner. Who has a problem with the 2nd amendment? I don't. And even if I did, at least I don't have a problem with civil rights. At least the libtards want to take EVERYONE's guns away, not just gay people's. Glue sniffer.

Oh, and if you like climbing, forget about those notions of living in Portland/Bend. Have you SEEN the bullshit they climb down there?

Yeah, civil rights are not very important, are they?. I can't believe the government is "wasting" so much time on this issue. Any other issues you're on the fence about? Have you come to terms with that whole "civil rights" debacle from the 60's, or does that still sting, too?