StevenSeagal

I'm still here- note "stevenseagal1" is the new guy- shinifuckwad posing as me. There is only one me, however. ss1 is Marked for Death.

Eek, careful- this comment sounds a little like another famous dog-owning Portland climber.

twocents: What is it about climbing that climbers "don't get" about climbing and about life that you do? Explain to us what we are missing that you apparently know so much about despite the fact that you are at best an armchair enthusiast typing on your keyboard. Molly: I will, for some reason, attempt to give you a serious answer. The search has been called off not because the sheriff "knows something we don't" about what happened. It's been called off because the probability of survival has reached zero or very near it. Further, based the fact that the searchers had several good days to scan the mountain's slopes, it seems highly probable that if their bodies were on the surface, they would have been spotted. Since they were not spotted, they are likely buried under tons of snow and/or inside a crevasse. In this case, the likelihood they will ever be found is extremely unlikely, but if there is any realistic chance of this happening, it would occur late in some fall or summer, particularly after a dry winter, which this winter most certainly is not. In the meantime, continuing to search only will burn money and put people needlessly at risk, exposing them to avy danger and all the rest of it. Even the families agree that it has to end. Undoubtedly, there will be occasional searching that goes on in future summers. While it's all new to you, the media is making this appear like an event unlike any that's happened before, when this sort of thing has happened many many times. City people have a hard time understanding how someone simply can't be found, or how something like this can happen. It does. Yes, the climbers undoubtedly made some mistakes, but what is infuriating so many people around here is the tone of people without any perspective from which to toss out harsh judgements doing exactly that. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but mindless condemnation of these guys especially from someone who knows only what they saw on Fox News is not appreciated. The light weight style these guys employed on their climb wasn't necessarily to fault; choosing to employ it during such a narrow and ambiguous weather window in winter, however, probably has more to do with what happened than what assholes like shitigamie will have you believe, which is that if you take light gear you'll die for sure. The fact is that the lightweight style overall has made climbing big routes in the mountains a safer activity, but the crucial thing that factors in is knowing when to engage and when to wait, and also to accept full responsibility. My guess is that these three guys understood all of this, but may have tragically miscalculated the window they thought they had. Beyond that, I don't care about all the details about what happened once they got into trouble up high- the bottom line is they didn't survive, and trying to pass judgment on decision making that happens once the shit has totally hit the fan is incredibly fucking arrogant and pointless. I'll bet anything these 3 would agree with every word I said here, without shame. back to you twocents- you're the most arrogant fucker here, claiming that "they don't get it". That's your perception because you've wandered into a room full of people seething with sarcasm and taken it all at face value. The fact that you take what is said and spewed out in this forum as SERIOUS, all the name calling and foolery and insults as SERIOUS- shows that YOU are the one who DOESN'T GET IT. This is a place for blowing off steam and joshing around, but everyone here and outside this website (which, by the way, can hardly be considered a full representation of the so called climbing community, it's just one little corner of the world) has rich relationships and trusts each other with their lives and experiences together the fullness of life. Sarcasm and crudeness runs with the crowd. Step back for a minute and lighten up. Or if it's too much, simply walk away. Into the Sun.

The dirtiest line is the one having the most fun.

Because the essence of climbing is conquering nature and the mountain. Also, they were suicidal and they were hoping to die. The mountain wins. I think we should all just conquer things we can handle. Walk up to tie-in-rock wearing a t-shirt and shorts in June, take some nice pictures for grandma and come back down. All in a day. Simple solution. Nice, neat, safe. Don't forget, "...then hurry over to Wal-Mart for Big Macs and 48 oz sodas, and to take advantage of the 400 oz tin of jizzcoated caramel corn on sale for $4.99..." Nice, neat, safe, Jesus approved.

Because the essence of climbing is conquering nature and the mountain. Also, they were suicidal and they were hoping to die.

You have to have ski poles on that route to pole vault yourself over the 1/2 mile deep glacial cracks. If they didn't have them, that's why they died.

Of course! They had their portable TV sets with them. The sheriff said off the record that the guy in the cave appeared to have been watching the Playboy channel, and when you hit "return" on the remote, it switched back to the Weather Channel. There's also unconfirmed reports that he might have been injured by a polar bear. The sheriff is definitely hiding something alright. Let's write a book.

Aren't you the guy from the Yahoo message boards that always make posts about ass raping corpses and beating off or dremeling your foreskin as soon as your post gets 10 recommendations? Your sole purpose here is to troll and bad mouth dead people to get some attention. Your have no basis for your bullshit aside from your infantile need for a reaction. We don't go down to the docks and pull cocks out of your mouth and tell you how to do your job, so STFU and use that puny 3 Oh 8 on your ballsack. Noob.

Damn you for understanding me so well. The Blah, blah.Blah, blah. is the same shit being said here on this thead. its basically just a bunch of Blah, blah.Blah, blah. Everytime 2cent opens his fucking lame ass mouths all I read is Blah, blah.Blah, blah.Blah, blah.Blah, blah. I am hard to kill...or just hard? I'll have to ask Pink if you're hard or not. Not that I want to know.

kevbone, swallow that load so we can understand you. You're not only Hard to Kill, you're Hard to Understand.

Guess again! There is a huge hazing period you must go through. We all went through it. What do you mean "went", kev? We're just taking it easy on you while we deal with all the new blood. Next week will be business as usual.

OMG. We almost have something in common Phil! Except, you need to reread Jiddu's writings on the "quiet mind". We all know your true spiritual leader... Baghwan Shree Rashneesh Yeah, well yours is the sadhu in Katmandu who lifts 50# blocks with his cock. A regular hero for you, he is.

OMG. We almost have something in common Phil! Except, you need to reread Jiddu's writings on the "quiet mind".

***You are bitch slapping this choad guzzler***

Oh, and I'm only telling you this because I REALLY CARE about YOU, and I'd hate to see you waste your life living in illusion. We all love you and want to see you live your life rightly, that's all. That's why I'm tearing apart your values, false as they are, because I know I'm right and you're wrong and I care about you and I want you to live rightly, can't you see that? And I just want everyone to live like me so I won't have any alternate opinions to challenge me or to feed my insecurities. I want to be positively reinforced, and the only way that can happen is if we all think exactly alike. Don't you see how much we love you?

Is there a good Jesus website I can go to? Because I've heard about this Jesus thing and I have some ideas I'd like to go share with the "true believers" and experts on the subject. I'd like to offer to them that the whole thing is a manmade fantasy and that Jesus was a paranoid schizophrenic with delusions of grandeur. And that "faith" is based on "hope", neither of which is based on "fact". And that the whole structure of all organized religion has it's foundations in the writings of superstitious men 1500 to 2000 years ago...men who claimed "God told me what to write" and out came the Bible, and the Koran and the Gita, et. al. Never mind that if anyone today claimed that God talked to them directly they are dismissed as blasphemous by even the true believers. What these men thousands of years ago said must be true because if it isn't, my whole life is a falsehood. Oh I'm rambling, I was just asking if you knew of a good website where I could share my opinions with true believers, preferably one where they won't get upset by my opinions even though they've devoted their whole lives to studying these issues specifically and can be considered experienced scholars on the subject, whereas I, the hellbound doubting Thomas I am, obviously don't know shit since I have a different view... Anyway, links please? Thanks for your help!! Cheers, Steven

I haven't hiked on the north face of Hood before, but I have many years experience as an undercover cop. And this thing has all the marks of Jamaican coke gangs. The cut rope, the orange. I think Screwface may be behind this. I'm going to investigate and when I get to the bottom of it, I'll report back and you guys call the sheriff.

Ah, thought I smelled poop.

Hey! Climbing and organized religion have a lot in common after all! DEATH! DEATH! DEATH!

I care about you. I love you very much.

That in your anus will be found three ice axes. Leashes and all.

And a golden dildo to mount on the rocks at the summit so you can fuck yourself in the ass when you reach the top unscathed.