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While I personally agree about 0 fahrenheit and ski areas vs backcountry, I have to say that I will never get away with the small packs that a lot of people use and that i sell. i'm 6'5" and about 190. My belay parka is huge. My sleeping bag is huge. I compared kelly cordes' longjohns, and his were half the size of mine. If you're the size of mark twight or kelly cordes or anybody else under 5'9", well, you've got a huge advantage in terms of the size of your clothing and shelter...

I don't think this stemmed from Labor's efforts in '03 to create more protection against hate crimes. The UK, and most of the EU, basically lacks the wide degree of protection of speech that might be thought of as 'harmful'... As for Turkey, Armenia and the genocide, well, Turkey does have a point that it was a different government and a different country, and they have offered repeatedly to open their archives for review. This does not change the fact that hundreds of thousands of Armenians died in Anatolia in during the first world war.

May I suggest armorall? It lasts longer than the WB40, stays on the board better and works better. Any silicone based car wax does wonders for me... When i knew what snow was, it would take me less than 3 minutes to swap, and my tele friends would still be gasping for breathe when I was ready to go...

truer words were never written...

i think pusher is revolution now. At least, at the trade show, it's the same dude... uh, my buddy doesn't sell them outside of turkey and europe. If you email him, I'm sure he'd be cycked to figure out how to ship holds to you...check out his terrible website to get an idea of what he's got. The holds really are at least as good as the website is bad. He's got shapes that seem plain at first but turn out to work really really well on the wall. anyway...

Didn't pusher change their name? i like their holds. I like nicros too. my favorites right now though are slopers from my buddy in turkey. They're really good holds, and seem to last forever.

i might be in antalya this weekend, climbing. if you're still around, shoot me a pm or email...

I have used it in several desert walls. I have also used it to defend myself from rabid french baristas in the charles degaulle airport hours before it collapsed on my gate.

First off, I'm not talking about Choinard Equipment, I'm talking about Patagonia. Different companies selling different things with different staff. I counted the ratio of stories in three broad categories: "bumbler", "environment" and "athlete" and the numbers of pictures of the patagonia athletes in the magazines over the time period I had access to. Bumbler stories used to be fairly common, and haven't appeared in years. Environment stories are done by professionals now, with the first one that I could find being the surfrider issue back in the mid 1990s. Athlete stories predominate the catalog now. They do, for me, make better reading than the magazines btw... In terms of pictures, the change is even more dramatic. About 80 to 95% of the pictures from the earlier catalogs in my sample were taken by people who don't turn up in stock catalogs, or in other words normal people. In the more recent catalogs, it's been 70 to 80% pictures of their athletes. Compare the kid's catalog to the adult catalog. The kids catalog has a totally different tone and approach, even though, presumabl, they're targeting the same demographic. I'm not disenchanted with anything, I'm studying the market leaders to learn from them.

That's not true at all. I just finished going through twenty or thirty catalogs from 1986 till now and comparing the tone, style and embarassers count. This started gaining momentum in the late 90's, and the winter catalog is by far the furthest along. i schill my product cause i'm poor, not cause i think forums are the best medium for distribution of information. i think it's at least as good as a magazine for a penetration in a particular demographic--see jayb's post over in spray. but there are tons of demographics not present on the internet.

call (530)222-4606 and ask to speak to John. He made the very first screamers, and he's still making them for his company yates...he'll be happy to talk to you about it. let us know what he says.

last day of the sale. I'm going to Turkey on Monday, and we'll be closed for two weeks.

In the gunks, the local access fund affiliate found that about 10% of the people who climbed on the preserve visited gunks.com or other local sites. I would expect it to be similar out there...

could you please provide overlay of the same data for the past ten years?

While the dirty denizens of spray are no doubt aware that CiloGear is having the fall sale, I would like to bring it to the attention of the rest of the population. As last time, about 10% goes to support the CC.com community, which I personally believe is one of the better resources on the Internet for climbing news, beta and of course spray and drivel. As last time, CiloGear has a limited supply of packs available. The sale is located www.cilogear.com/packs/sale.shtml . BTW, the small 40L packs that are left are SMALL! If you're not SMALL, don't even think about it! Please don't forget to mention CC.com in your order, or in our follow up communications. I want to give Jon every cent that I can to help him out with the new update, but you need to give credit where credit is due, ok?

How big is it? It's about 40 liters, big enough for a trad rack, a rope and lunch to fit inside. There are two pockets inside, and one outside for guidebooks, lip balm and whatever else you might like to avoid losing. I agree that a multitude of straps are extraneous to the mission of a crag pack. I also agree that urethane is a fantastic material for crag packs. On the other hand, I think haul bags are pigs.

I am willing to bet you haven't actually tasted a frappe yet. THEY ARE AWESOME. It might take you a try or two before you find a good one, but mmmmhh. They are so good. They are what north american coffee shops are trying and failing to make. there is decent climbing in crete and santorini but kalymnos is way ahead of the game. try the british guy's bar for beta, the current guide book and all that jazz...

As soon as I've sold out the few remaining packs I've got left, I'm off to make more. Probably the most requested new pack was a cragging pack. I have made a prototype, but since it's really ugly, I thought I would describe it in words and see what people think... It is a clamshell, so you can zip it open and reveal all your crap all at once. It has a removable internal gear organization system (aka gear loops ) It has a place for either a helmet on the outside, or a rope. No lid. The zipper comes all the way up to the back, so there is a flattish spot, but no lid. Is there anything you've been dying to see in a crag pack? Or is there any huge need for another pack?

roadtrip where you buy wine, cheese and bread, instead of PBR and raman noodles. ah. I think we're going to go to the philipines or cambodia and sit on the beach sometime this winter. Right now it's back to work. Speaking of which, doesn't anybody want a backpack? I know that all the regular posters bought one last time, but jeez, don't you have any friends?

thanks for all your kind wishes. It was great! honeymoon? what's that? We're going to try to do something in the winter...

they're even worse at Brown.. Good thing she's a yalie, huh? clock is ticking...

I'm getting married tommorrow. cilogear is having a sale on what little I have left packwise. www.cilogear.com/packs/sale.shtml as usual about 10% of the sale price will go to the site if you mention cc in your order. back checking email monday.

Kalymnos has everything sport, if you're into overhanging limestone. The routes are very well bolted on the whole, and the sweet spot of routes--when I was there last--is in the 5.10+ to 5.12 range. There are a lot of harder climbs, but i can't pull down that hard, so ... Meteora couldn't be more different. Instead of limestone, it's conglomerate and it's more about super delicate edging. I love it. The scenery is a trip too. Almost all of the routes are bolted, but many are bolted german style, with just a couple of bolts and you are expected to use nuts or cams for the rest of the route. There are a ton of modern routes with lots of bolts, and they're what I prefer there. You really can't camp on Kalymnos in any practical way, but there is camping at Meteora.

The population of Iran is not arab, or at least not more than 8% of the population. That's like saying the population of the USA is mexican. This thread really does belong in spew.

Probably the funniest moment I've ever had at an Outdoor Retailer show was meeting this german guy who was there with the Nordic Walking folks. He was smoking a marlboro red and I bummed one from him. German Guy(gg): Oh sure, i'm here with the fruities with the poles. crackers©: what? gg: You know, those morons walking around with the poles. c: the, um, nordic walkers? gg: They only pay me 2,000 euro. It's not enough for me to say the same of their stupid game when I'm on my smoke break. c: wow. gg: I get to visit Utah and Nevada. I will also go to Yosemite and go climbing. c: Are you a climber? gg: nope, i am a nordic combined skier. I came in fourth in the world cup last year, but this is what i do for cash. fcking nordic fcking walking. who are they kidding? ... he went on and on and we smoked three cigs each as he totally and wholly trashed the sport.