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From: to: in only 6 posts! Great job cc.com'ers!

Thanks all...point taken. Barjor, I appreciate the offer. I'll be with a few other cats and they've all done the south side. The NR was just a thought and if everyone's descriptions weren't so bad, we were going to try it. Maybe we'll hit something fun in the North Cascades. Thanks again!

I'm heading up there this weekend. I realize it's a half-way decent route when it's covered in snow, but is it crazy to head up there now? I don't mind the scree and a little bit of less-than-productive climbing, but is there any redeeming value going up this route now? Why? I've been up there many times...just never up this route, and I didn't make it up there earlier this year. I have the weekend free so I thought what the hell. Thoughts? Thanks!

GREAT TR TLG! That was a pleasure to read. Glad you had a great trip. It's an amazing mountain.

I'm all for this concept. But put them in the middle of the fucking desert!

Absolutely not. But I have climbed with people that are SO concerned about weight, yet I look down and see an extra 30 lbs. of shit hanging over their belt. WTF? I'm sure our friend here isn't in that kind of shape, but I was just pointing out that if you are really concerned about what you are hauling up the mountain, don't forget to think about yourself.

Not sure how much YOU weigh, but keep in mind that if you can loose 10 lbs of body weight somehow, that's 10 lbs you won't have to carry.

I would also suggest this. I have been going there since I was a kid and it really is a cool (literally) place.

Wow! Awesome. Thank you!

Thanks. Here's an update for those that give a fuck. I took the whole thing apart and soaked and flushed it entirely with 1:2 bleach / water solution. Then finished with dish soap. I even boiled the mouth piece in the microwave. Everything turned out great. There is a permanent rusty "burn" where the mold/sludge was, but I can't taste anything funny. But I've used it twice and I'm good to go. Thanks again for the tips!

There are complete assholes with inflated egos in every walk of life. I work with several. I would argue that people (climbers), in general, are a lot more polite in person that they SAY they are here. And that some of these responses we're reading here are more a snapshot of how people tend to bloviate on the internet in this type of forum than they do coming off a mountain.

Flossed my teeth. Now it's a glossy 8x10 in my dentist's office. The receptionist always seems to be VERY impressed.

I have talked to a couple guys that did Adams. The "danger" I think that is mentioned refers mostly to a couple of glacier crossings...Mazama Glacier specifically. But they did it about 4 years ago and in September, and said it wasn't a big deal. I think people hear glacier and they automaticcally assume crevasses...which isn't really the case up there. Simply some hard ice down low that may just require a steady foot. There are however some routefinding issues, especially in the less traveled areas. But nothing too serious. From what I gather, because of access, Adams trail is not nearly traveled as much as the Hood trail. And keep in mind you're also crossing reservation land. There may be some particulars that need to be addressed with that. Yeah, the Wonderland would be epic in one day. You guys probably heard the story about those two cats (only one made it) that did it a couple of years ago. They documented it in that movie called The Wonderland Project. I bought it. It's pretty good. They were shooting to do the 92 miles in 24 hours, but Skye, the one guy that finished, though beating the record, took 26 hours. Still VERY impressive.

6 hours!? That's hardcore. No two ways about it. The Sandy was the only one that has much of a trick to it. A log crossing over some fast current. But really no biggy. At 30 miles under your belt you may just opt to walk right in and out of it. The Zigzag and others were fine. I trained for this last year and went from Timberline to Cloud Cap. It was right after the heavy rains. In fact just a couple of days after that gal died in the Sandy. The rivers were high, the routefinding on the otherside was almost impossible and it took a long time to get to Cloudcap. This year I hope it's different. 6 hours! I'm still shaking my head. But I'll let you know how it goes.

Yep, that was her. Some friends of mine have done it twice. The first time they did it CW from Timberline. The second time they did it CCW from Timberline and said it was much better because if you are finishing up late in the day, the west side stays lighter just a bit longer. The time they did it CW they were near Whiteriver seeing the lights of Timberline in the dark. They said crossing the river in the dark and trying to find the trail on the other side was very sketchy. Also, from what I can tell from VolcanoRunning, after you leave Gnarl Ridge and Lambertson Spur, then it's increasingly down hill from there. Would you agree?

Man, I was up there yesterday too! We are doing the whole thing in a day in early September, so it was a training deal yesterday. It was beautiful wasn't it? After studying the map and elevation charts, it has always appeared--and it was confirmed yesterday--that the trail between Ramona Falls and Timberline would be a BITCH. We went from Ramona Falls TH to Timberline and back. I'm sure we crossed paths at some point. I was with another guy and we did the same thing, jog the flats, walk uphill and run the downhill. But I'm curious, if and when you do it again, would you still start at Timberline and go CCW? After yesterday, even though it would add ~4 miles to the trip, I'm thinking about starting at the Ramona Falls TH and getting that elevation out of the way early. I don't think I would want to do those last 11 miles after I had done 30! That log crossing the Sandy was interesting wasn't it? I was nervous for this one older gal who wanted to go up to Ramona Falls. But she made a wrong turn and ended about 3/4" up the hill above the Sandy. She seemed a little confused. Is she the one that you helped across?? (heavy-set, mid-60's, single ski-pole) Great pics too. Nice work Oleg!

I was waiting for your clever response Dru. Thank you! No, I'm not attached to it. And I will probably throw it out. I'm just the type that if something is still usable, I'll keep using it. Thanks again

Excellent. Just what I was looking for. Thanks!

I discovered a hydration pack in my garage that I had neglected to clean out...about a year ago. It HAD blue PowerAid in it. Now it's a heavy, green syrup. Once I wash this mess out, will running bleach through it be sufficient? I'll take all the components (mouthpiece, hose, etc.) off and wash those seperately. But will the bleach take care of making it sanitary again? Thanks!

I wonder if our children have the same opinion about this? Adults can get over a loss, children suffer a little more I'd say.

Because this is cc.com. If it didn't turn out that way, it'd be summitpost.com

It must have been a large platform that they were unaware they were on that gave way.

From KIRO: KIROTV.com 4 Climbers Hurt On Mount Rainier POSTED: 10:49 am PDT July 7, 2005 UPDATED: 1:15 pm PDT July 7, 2005 ASHFORD, Wash. -- Military helicopters Thursday evacuated four climbers injured when they fell into a crevasse on Mount Rainier. "We believe that they were on a snowbridge which collapsed," Mount Rainier National Park spokeswoman Lee Taylor said. "All four were injured, two rather severely and two less seriously." The men fell at about 7:20 a.m. All four were evacuated by 1 p.m. PDT from Ingraham Glacier at the 12,600-foot level of the 14,411-foot peak. Taylor did not know the crevasse's size, but said they typically are up to 100 feet deep. Rainier officials say the most severely injured person suffered serious head trauma, a broken leg and possible rib injuries. He was plucked from the crevasse by mountain rescue personnel and then flown from the mountain to a nearby hospital by an Oregon National Guard Blackhawk helicopter, Guard Capt. Mike Braibish said. The second-most-seriously injured person -- complaining of back pain -- was removed by a second Blackhawk, Braibish said. The first two people removed were a climber with an apparent dislocated shoulder and a guide who suffered a head injury but was able to assist with first aid efforts. They were the least seriously injured, but were removed first because the park service's first available helicopters were not equipped as rescue or air ambulance vehicles, Taylor said. The people who fell were with a guide from Rainier Mountaineering Inc. Other parties climbing with RMI guides were nearby and assisted with first aid and rescue efforts, and National Park Service rangers were dropped to the scene by helicopter. The fall occurred on the Disappointment Cleaver route on Ingraham Glacier, one of the most popular paths to the summit. A spokeswoman for the search and rescue team said she didn't know where the climbers are from. Weather was clear on the mountain, helping in the rescue. Copyright 2005 by KIROTV.com. The Associated Press contributed to this report.

FOUR climbers in a crevasse. That's no good.